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[Mambo
Sam] Hello everyone. Good to see you all! If you didn’t get a chance, some of
the questions that had been asked have been posted at
www.spellmaker.com/chatinformation/ChatQuestions04102007.html
[Mambo
Sam] I know that quite a few of you have looked at them because I did get
questions from some of you - especially about the Black Mummy/brown image
candle work that I describe there.
[Mambo
Sam] I will give everyone a moment to get logged on. I have noticed that
sometimes it won’t let people log on the first time - I think that is when a
lot of people are trying to log on at once. It wouldn’t let me in for a minute!
[Mambo
Sam] Now that would be something if I couldn’t get into my own chat room!
[Mambo
Sam] LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] So I will give it a minute here.
[Mambo
Sam] Okey dokey - let’s do get started!
[Mambo
Sam] So, I do have some questions that some of you already sent me.
[Mambo
Sam] So before I get into those, did anyone else have any questions about the
Black Mummy/brown image candle usage for eliminating an intruder?
[Mambo
Sam] If you haven’t read it yet, don’t ask anything! LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, then I will just go ahead with the questions that you sent me:
[Mambo
Sam] All right, someone wanted to know if you could use it on more than one
intruder.
[Mambo
Sam] You need to do it one on one. So if you have more than one intruder, you
will need a different set of stuff for each intruder.
[Mambo
Sam] It is not a ritual for, as I mentioned in the file, something such as “all
women but me” or anything like that. This is for very
focused, pin point work on one person to get that one person away from your one
person.
[ouanga_bottle]
what if you have a whole laundry list of non-human targets? like
fear, shame, guilt, etc. and a human target as well
[Mambo
Sam] Not for that ritual. For human targets only.
[ouanga_bottle] just for that combo? or
for black mummy and/or brown candle?
[ouanga_bottle]
oops
[Mambo
Sam] Just for that particular ritual; not those products
individually themselves.
[ouanga_bottle]
gotcha, thank you sweetieeeee
[Mambo
Sam] We are just talking about the ritual that I put in the file today.
[ouanga_bottle]
that makes total sense
[ouanga_bottle]
but you have to devote two candles and do the whole ritual to that specific target
[Mambo
Sam] Yes - three candles actually.
[ouanga_bottle]
that sounds totally effective
[ouanga_bottle]
ok thank you
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome - Marge, then Desiree...
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, but I did debate on whether or not to put that out for sort of
“public consumption” because we have a tendency to get wrapped up in our cases
and it is of paramount importance to keep yourself totally out of the equation
with that ritual.
[Mambo
Sam] Really, you should almost do it as if you were doing it for someone else -
like you are not involved in it at all.
[Marge]
Ok, say the spell caster doesn’t know who the intruder is but definitely knows
there is one/or two or three? Can they put “Intruders” in their petition?
[Mambo
Sam] Not for that combo. It just isn’t that effective in that way. It needs to
be very focused.
[Marge]
So should they just put intruder then?
[Mambo
Sam] This is a case where you need to know who the intruder is.
[Mambo
Sam] Or intruders.
[Marge]
Oh God, this is complicated; sometimes people get word there is an intruder but
they don’t have a name
[Mambo
Sam] This is not complicated. This is a specific ritual for a specific purpose.
The bottom line is, if you don’t know the intruder’s
name, you should not do this particular combo.
[Marge]
How about just a single Black Mummy Candle?
[Mambo
Sam] That is different, and not what we are discussing right now. I am talking
specifically about the combo that I put in the file earlier today.
[Marge]
Oh, ok, I’m sorry
[Mambo
Sam] No apologies necessary! Just trying to sort out the
difference between the combo work and single work. Right now, just about
the combo work.
[Marge]
Ok
[Mambo
Sam] Hold on - Desiree, then Charlie
[Desiree’]
Desire’’ I’m confused- you mentioned three candles- the black mummy- the brown
image and then what color?
[Mambo
Sam] It’s two brown image candles and then the Black
Mummy in the middle.
[Mambo
Sam] One image candle for your HD, one for the intruder, and
the Black Mummy in the middle.
[Mambo
Sam] Please, everyone, read this ritual carefully
before you do it. You are using a brown image candle to represent your HD
because you want him/her away from the intruder.
[Mambo
Sam] Desiree - does it make sense now?
[Desiree’]
Yes thanks
[Mambo
Sam] Good! Charlie?
[CharlieInez]
how does the black mummy candle compare to TURK, if they are both geared toward
the same person, and can you use just one. the revenge
IS justified.
[Mambo
Sam] The TURK is way more powerful than the Black Mummy.
[Mambo
Sam] But, can you hang on with that line of thought and let’s stick to the
combo ritual for a minute.
[CharlieInez]
ok that’s fine
[Mambo
Sam] Remind me to get back to that if it needs more clarification.
[CharlieInez]
ok I will thanks
[Mambo
Sam] Ouanga, please go ahead.
[ouanga_bottle]
theoretically, what if you have a picture of the intruder (or some other
identifying artifacts) but you don’t know his/her name? would
that still be effective enough for this ritual?
[Mambo
Sam] Really you should know who you are working on.
[Mambo
Sam] This isn’t actually “revenge” work per se - even though you are using a
black mummy..
[Mambo Sam] by the way.
[ouanga_bottle]
will first name be enough?
[Mambo
Sam] This is a specific way to try to turn two people away from each other and
cause major discord between them.
[Mambo
Sam] I mean, a picture would be useful, but who is it???
[ouanga_bottle]
heh heh
[ouanga_bottle]
wouldn’t we all like to know
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, Candelaria.
[Candelaria]
This is not a ritual where variables come into play...period! You caseworker
can give you other ways to tackle this where you don’t know the intruder’s
name. This is very specific, as Mambo has said.
[Candelaria]
It’s basically just the way it is!
[ouanga_bottle]
gotcha! (hi candelaria) and thanks
[Mambo
Sam] LOL. Yep.
[Mambo
Sam] Pretty much it is what it is and that is what it is.
[Candelaria]
Hi Baby. You’re welcome. OK, on to da Mambo Lady
[Mambo
Sam] Like I said, I know how much people like to fool around with stuff and so
I was reticent to publish it, but there ya are!
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, did I miss anyone up there with a question?
[Mambo
Sam] Thank you, Candi.
[Candelaria]
You’re welcome!
[Destiny] ??
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, Destiny, please go ahead.
[Destiny]
Is first name enough, and how long would you recommend
to do the ritual?
[Mambo
Sam] As to how long to do the ritual - until it is done!
[Mambo
Sam] First name is enough if you know who it is... I know that sounds funny,
but what I mean is if you just heard that your HD is going out with some chick
named
[Destiny]
I am working on a black mummy for that very same purpose, so I can just add the
brown candles to add more energy to it?
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, as long as you are doing it for a specific intruder.
[Destiny]
okay, I get it thank you.
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome.
[Mambo
Sam] Babycakes!
[babycakes] At what point is this combo appropriate? After the standard trio of spells? After Deluxe Kits or is
it something done on recommendation by our Caseworkers?
[Mambo
Sam] Any of the above.
[Mambo
Sam] Seriously, you could do it at any time.
[babycakes] ty
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome. Anyone else?
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, quickly, let’s get back to Charlie for a minute...
[CharlieInez]
thank you
[Mambo
Sam] So, I am not completely sure that I am understanding
your question - was it TURK vs. Black Mummy or something else?
[Mambo
Sam] I understand you are justified, for sure.
[CharlieInez]
justified yes
[CharlieInez]
nope that’s it.. if the turk
is more powerful is it also faster for results
[Mambo
Sam] Not necessarily.
[Mambo
Sam] It depends upon what you are asking to happen, which you can discuss with
your caseworker, of course. But the TURK is very carefully crafted for a number
of reason and can actually take probably the longest
of any kits.
[Mambo
Sam] But it depends on the case.
[Mambo
Sam] There are a lot of safeguards that are necessary in the TURK.
[Mambo
Sam] And they are there.
[Mambo
Sam] But those safeguards are not necessary for every case and it depends quite
a bit on what you are trying to do with it.
[Mambo
Sam] So did we cover it, Charlie?
[CharlieInez]
I think so I will have to read over this to make sure I’ve gotten everything
OUT
[CharlieInez]
thank you for now
Mambo
Sam] You are welcome.
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, go ahead Marge.
[Marge]
Is it justified to use the Turk on an intruder if the person doesn’t know the
intruder?
[Marge]
the spell caster I mean
[Mambo
Sam] Marge, only if the intruder knows about the spell caster
and knowingly hurt the spell caster.
[Marge]
ok, that’s all I needed to know. thanks
[Mambo
Sam] Otherwise, the spell caster is out of bounds.
[Mambo
Sam] OH, or if the intruder harmed someone you love knowingly and on purpose -
then you are justified. Especially if it is a family member.
[Marge]
Understand
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, Destiny.
[Destiny]
What if the intruder did not know about me when she first got with HD but knows
about me now?
[Destiny]
And now is holding onto HD with everything she has and is keeping him away from
our children
[Destiny]
is that justified?
[Mambo
Sam] I would say that is justified, just for different reasons. Even though she didn’t know about you in the first place.
Once she did know, she should have backed off. Of course, we can get into the
fact that the HD shouldn’t have gone along with it.
[Destiny] ok, just want to be careful of going out of
bounds. Thank you
[Mambo
Sam] But, yes, I would say that is justified.
[Destiny]
he shouldn’t have!
[Mambo
Sam] Yep!
[Destiny]
Thanks Mambo!
[hopethegoddess] Mambo I have a question regarding justified
and turk
[Mambo
Sam] Go ahead, Hope.
[hopethegoddess] Am I justified if it was a friend that
convinced her to leave and got with her in a relationship knowing we were
together?
[Mambo
Sam] Oh good grief, yes. In fact, that is an excellent example of justified.
[Mambo
Sam] Some friend...
[Mambo
Sam] Geez.
[hopethegoddess] awesome well wasn’t my friend was
hers, but I knew she couldn’t be trusted
[Mambo
Sam] Oh, well, still.... yes.
[hopethegoddess] thank you Mambo :-D
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome.
[Mambo
Sam] Redangel! Go ahead.
[REDANGEL]
Can I still do the turk even though I know the
intruder is out of the pic for now but she always finds a way to get back in,
and I am very justified
[REDANGEL]
She lied to my ex about being pregnant so he would go back to her
[Mambo
Sam] Well, sure. I mean the TURK is not necessarily just for an intruder, but
for anyone who has caused you harm and misery through no fault of your own.
Heck yeah, just because an intruder is gone, doesn’t mean you can’t TURK ‘em!
[REDANGEL]
Awesome!!! Thanks
[Mambo
Sam] Some people go through incredible misery with the intruder doing terrible
things to them! There is no reason not to TURK them even after they are gone.
[hopethegoddess] mine too
[Mambo
Sam] LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] Charlie?
[CharlieInez]
so in hope’s case would the black mummy be better than
turk? or isn’t that any of my business, but it’s close
to what I was asking before and close to my situation
[CharlieInez]
or turk better than black mummy
[Mambo
Sam] I don’t really want to get into discussing personal cases. One item being
better than another
[Mambo
Sam] is decided on a number of factors: Your case.
[Mambo
Sam] What you want to happen - do you want to needle them a little or cause
them the abject misery they caused you.
[Mambo
Sam] Even finances might be a factor.
[Mambo
Sam] Obviously the Black Mummy is less expensive than the TURK and if you feel
that you can get your own personal satisfaction from that, and finances are an
issue, then Black Mummy it is.
[hopethegoddess] for me the turk makes me
happier
[CharlieInez]
wow lots of things then...are factors...
[CharlieInez]
ok thanks again,
[Mambo
Sam] And then there’s that - the TURK makes Hope happier!
[CharlieInez]
will I’m with hope then
[Mambo
Sam] And this brings up a good point - definitely you guys should always
remember that your caseworker is there to help you.
[Mambo
Sam] I get this kind of comment all the time, “I didn’t want to bother my
caseworker with _____”
[Mambo
Sam] fill in the blank...
[Mambo
Sam] Um, what?
[Mambo
Sam] You are not bothering your caseworker unless you are e-mailing her 10
times a day.
[Mambo
Sam] LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] Don’t be afraid to ask your caseworker legit questions. That is why I have
caseworkers!
[Mambo
Sam] For you.
[Mambo
Sam] Okay.... that was that.
[Mambo
Sam] Where are we? Did I miss anyone? (Oh, and God bless those caseworkers! And
chat workers! And tech support!)
[Destiny]
And they are awesome, I have to add. Bridget is great!
[bridget] :-) awww, shucks.
[Candelaria]
Loves me some Bridget!!! Honestly folks, she’s the best!! Embrace your Bridget!
You can’t ask for a better caseworker!
[bridget] yes, you could ask for Candi!!!!
[Mambo
Sam] Bridget, Bridget, rah, rah, rah.
[bridget] Candi Rocks!
[Mambo
Sam] I like Candi
[ouanga_bottle]
love love love to all of you!
[Candelaria]
Awww thanks!!!
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, all these great helpers deserve a lot of credit.
[ouanga_bottle]
hey mambo?
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, dear.
[ouanga_bottle]
did you get my question about the accidentally laundered gris
gris bags?
[Mambo
Sam] Getting to it, it happens more frequently than you think! LOL.
[ouanga_bottle]
ha
[ouanga_bottle]
I feel like a schmuck
[Mambo
Sam] So, nice segue.... if there is nothing else about the other subject, we
will move on.
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway...
[Mambo
Sam] SOMEONE asked the question What if we
accidentally put our gris gris bags through the laundry? They were in my pillow
case and I totally spaced it when I did my sheets about two months ago. They
were pretty mushy afterward but were still intact and look fine and even still
have their scents, but are they still effective? Should I do anything to
rebaptize them in any way, or are they ok? A similar question is... can I wash
my deluxe love doll and then rebaptize her? Like give her a bath?
[ouanga_bottle]
hee hee
[Mambo
Sam] Actually, the bags should be fine. So no worries.
[Mambo
Sam] Some people have destroyed them in the laundry!
[Mambo
Sam] Or really damaged them, but if you do that, and they seem pretty much
intact, then cool.
[ouanga_bottle]
whew!
[Mambo
Sam] If they start getting raggedy, though, because now they have been in the
water, you can actually put the whole bag into another cloth bag for
protection.
[ouanga_bottle]
that’s a great idea, but yeah, they look good
[Mambo
Sam] As to the doll -- it is best not to wash them - I know they get grungy,
but redress it or something.
[ouanga_bottle]
gotcha - it’s infused with our energy
[Mambo
Sam] Yep.
[simonegreenewpp] Sometimes I give my doll a little squirt of
HD’s scent when it gets grungy.
[Mambo
Sam] Oh, that’s a nice idea Simone! I like it.
[ouanga_bottle]
awesome
[ouanga_bottle]
thanks mambo
[ksig1998]
Every now and then you hear of someone using the GAM/GAW. How effective are
these spells at removing an intruder compared to using a black mummy?
[Mambo
Sam] Kisig. It’s a choice.
[Mambo
Sam] As I was mentioning in the file questions, GAM/GAW is certainly a choice
for getting rid of an intruder. This assumes one has already done LMMA/LMWA -
which, as I had mentioned sometimes get spread a little bit thin when we are
working on all sorts of things with that one kit.
[Mambo
Sam] The GAM/GAW, of course, will pin point the exact intruder.
[Mambo
Sam] The question of effectiveness and power really has to do a lot with who
you are working on.
[ksig1998]
With the GAM/GAW do you need to know their name?
[Mambo
Sam] And what else you have done.
[Mambo
Sam] Ksig, it works best that way.
[rattle shaker] ???
[Mambo
Sam] Rattle shaker, go ahead please.
[rattle shaker] Ok, speaking of adjunct work
[rattle shaker] Can you chain a “go away” product with a
“healing product”?
[rattle shaker] Like to banish the
negative, and bring in the positive?
[Mambo
Sam] Don’t do them together - for that you need to wait the 45 minutes between
products.
[Mambo
Sam] Those are two separate things.
[rattle shaker] Ok, thanks
[godfaithful] Mambo, when we do our
love doll, which Lois do we connect to? Because we don’t call upon any specific
ones...Sometimes when I leave an offering for the doll sessions, I usually end
up saying thanks to all the Lois who helped me in the session ...Are there
any specific ones who ALWAYS are there to help us during our doll session? Same
for any of the image candles...
[Mambo
Sam] Those products are more “broad based” and actually most of them are based
on New Orleans Traditional Witchcraft.
[Mambo
Sam] Now...
[Mambo
Sam] because we are first and foremost New Orleans Voodoo, we, especially after
having worked on a case for awhile, want to involve Les Lois in all of our
work! And that is a good thing!
[Mambo
Sam] So, in the case you are talking about, you can call on, work with, any lwa
that you are comfortable with and feel close to.
[Mambo
Sam] Thus, you would want to leave them an offering.
[Mambo
Sam] The dolls themselves are consecrated “on the point of” Erzulie Freda.
[Mambo
Sam] The reason you don’t necessarily have to leave an offering or anything
within that kit is because I already did it when I consecrate the dolls.
[godfaithful] so in cases where we do not call upon any
specific Lwa during the doll session, we are asking Erzulie Freda for help ?
[ouanga_bottle]
wow you rock
[godfaithful] Awww, thank you Mambo
[Mambo
Sam] God faithful, yes, and you could be working with, calling on any other lwa
that you are comfortable with. This is an awesome subject and I would love to
explore this in depth when we talk about the lwa over the next few weeks!
[Mambo
Sam] Terrific!
[godfaithful] thank you mambo
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome, Godfaithful.
[Mambo
Sam] So, I hope that makes sense for now, and we will revisit this in depth.
Okay, Phantodrac, Simone, and Patrick... in that order, I think.
[Mambo
Sam] Go ahead Phantodrac.
[phantodrac] Does it matter what clothes we wear while doing
adjunct work? For example, is wearing black clothes during a love doll session
a poor choice?
[Mambo
Sam] Not necessarily at all. Just be comfortable.
[phantodrac] Great!, lol. Thanks.
[Mambo
Sam] There are some exceptions to that.... but unless you are working as a
Houngan or Mambo, you don’t need to worry about it.
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome.
[simonegreenewpp] Oops I have Erzulie Dantor on my altar at
the moment. Is that a problem since the dolls are on point with Erzulie Freda?
[Mambo
Sam] No.
[Mambo
Sam] Not at all. If I didn’t tell you, you wouldn’t
know.
[simonegreenewpp] ooh, good! Thank you! :-)
[PATRICKinCALI]
Is Marie Laveau a Lois? Can she be called upon for assistance? I really have a
“thing” for her
[PATRICKinCALI]
Is it ok that I have a picture of her on my altar?
[Mambo
Sam] In New Orleans Voodoo she is. Please DO ask me about this when we discuss
the lwa.
[Mambo
Sam] It is definitely okay to have her picture on your altar. A lot of the
products you guys use are consecrated on her point.
[Mambo
Sam] Awesome!
[PATRICKinCALI]
Great! I also have a crucifix and rosary on my altar, that
OK??
[Mambo
Sam] Yep, Patrick I have them on my altar, too.
[PATRICKinCALI]
Thank you Mambo
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome.
[Mambo
Sam] OH, someone remind me when we talk about the lwa
[Mambo
Sam] to tell you how to say a rosary to the lwa!
[Desiree’]
Desiree’ -Is it important that we wear a bright and colorful scarf to call
attention to the LWA when we petition?
[Mambo
Sam] Desiree - unless you are an initiate you don’t have to wear a head scarf.
[Mambo
Sam] However, you sure can if you want to.
[Desiree’]
Desire’ Thanks for clearing that up for me Mambo
[godfaithful] Mambo, sometimes, when I am walking, or in my
office...and for any reason need to “share a word” with Alegba, or other Lwa’s
that I have worked with, am I allowed to do that? :D
Without lighting the formal candle etc? Especially with other
Lwa’s like Ogoun, Erzulie etc? I am not sure if for talking to other
Lwa’s without asking Papa to open the gate in a situation like this is
advisable?
[Mambo
Sam] Godfaithful - yep. We discussed this and it should be in one of the chat
transcripts. If you haven’t read them, please do. The short answer is yes, you
sure can.
[godfaithful] okie thank you
[Mambo
Sam] Bridget, go ahead please.
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome, Godfaithful.
[bridget] can we talk a little about how to use the dolls
from the deluxe love spell?
[bridget] after the spell?
[ouanga_bottle]
awesome!
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, for sure. Did you have something specific? Or is just some general
discussion in order?
[bridget] just general -- I get a lot of questions about it
[Mambo
Sam] Cool... so I shall ramble on here for a moment!
[Mambo
Sam] I mentioned in the chat questions a little bit about using all the dolls
together -- how you could pin point specifics with each of the dolls - so I
won’t discuss that too much as you guys can read that.
[Mambo
Sam] But with just your deluxe love dolls... think about this..
[Mambo
Sam] those dolls are you and your HD.
[Mambo
Sam] You can “refresh” that spell by doing candle work and having those dolls
there.
[Mambo
Sam] You can use pink, red, or white figure candles and have the dolls there
[Mambo
Sam] And I meant to say deluxe love spell dolls, not deluxe love dolls - I
don’t want to confuse things
[Mambo
Sam] I am talking about the dolls from the deluxe love spell on a man or woman
- sorry if that was confusing.
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway...
[Mambo
Sam] these dolls can be figured into combo work.
[Mambo
Sam] A Healing Egg is a good example of something that you could use these
dolls with.
[Mambo
Sam] Do the healing egg ritual and rub the egg over the dolls (keeping them
together) asking that your relationship with the HD be healed.
[Mambo
Sam] The Vivid or Magick dream bag is something else you could use with those
dolls (or other dolls, for that matter) to petition that your HD dream of you
(sweet, wonderful dreams, of course!)
[godfaithful] Mambo, how do we use the vivid dreams bag for
that?
[godfaithful] like on a regular love doll?
[Mambo
Sam] I wrote it in the file with the questions. www.spellmaker.com/chatinformation/ChatQuestions04102007.html
[Mambo
Sam] You could put a love charm on those dolls.
[Mambo
Sam] Definitely there are a number of ways to use those dolls from the deluxe
kit. I will stop a moment for questions on those dolls - Bridget are we covering some of what you wanted to know?
[Mambo
Sam] Bridget?
[bridget] yes, thank you that is very helpful
[Mambo
Sam] So the dolls from the deluxe love spell....
[Mambo
Sam] as you can see, you need to get them out of their box from their
“compromising position” - you know who you are!
[Mambo
Sam] I would say that it is a pretty safe bet to use those dolls much as you
would a regular love doll or deluxe love doll -- just that remember there are
two of you there - so you want to focus on all things that would relate to you
both, helping you both in the relationship.
[Mambo
Sam] I know Ouanga has her hand up, but Bridget, please, do you have questions
about any of this?
[bridget] can the love egg also be used with them?
[bridget] like the healing egg was recommended?
[Mambo
Sam] Oh for sure... the Love Egg would be excellent to use with them!
[Mambo
Sam] Candi
[Mambo
Sam] go ahead, please.
[Candelaria]
Also remember that the energy from your deluxe love spell is in those dolls. they are very important, so don’t just put them away in
their box and not touch them. They are excellent for continuing that energy!!
Work with them.
[Mambo
Sam] Yep, that is for sure.
[Mambo
Sam] Thank you!
[Candelaria]
you’re welcome
[Mambo
Sam] Ouanga?
[ouanga_bottle]
can you bring your deluxe love doll, and your dolls from the deluxe love spell,
together, for adjunct work? or pick one or the other
for a specific candle/etc? also, if you decide to use
them, do you have to keep it up for the whole candle?
[ouanga_bottle]
also... re: the dolls from the deluxes... I tied mine together - is that ok? or is that too much like bondage?
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, you can. I did mention that in the file, I think. Tied together is
fine....
[ouanga_bottle]
and WOW - put the love charm on the dolls - what an excellent idea! put it around the doll’s neck like a necklace?
[Mambo
Sam] You do that in the spell!
[ouanga_bottle]
but I REALLY tied them up
[Mambo
Sam] You need to read last week’s chat!
[ouanga_bottle]
oops sorry
[Mambo
Sam] LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] It’s okay.
[ouanga_bottle]
thank you love
[Mambo
Sam] And no, you wouldn’t have to keep it up for the whole candle, you could
switch them out.
[Mambo
Sam] Any more about the dolls from the deluxe love spell?
[Mambo
Sam] Hope that helped, Bridget.
[simonegreenewpp] It’s very helpful, thank you!
[bridget] Yes, thank you
[Mambo
Sam] Great!
[bridget] I have some ammo now :-)
[godfaithful] While doing our petition for the adjunct work,
can we meditate on our petition instead of speaking it sometimes? I have a bad
sore throat these days and can’t speak for 20 mins So was wondering if meditation on the petition is also
equally effective like speaking it? Or does speaking punch in an extra boost?
[godfaithful] sorry if this has already been
discussed
[Mambo
Sam] Godfaithful, do you want to ask that question again, please.
[godfaithful] While doing our petition for the adjunct work,
can we meditate on our petition instead of speaking it sometimes? I have a bad
soar throat these days and can’t speak for 20 mins So
was wondering if meditation on the petition is also equally effective like
speaking it? Or does speaking punch in an extra boost?
[Mambo
Sam] You don’t have to speak the whole 20 minutes. Meditation should be part of
it. In one of the chats we talked about petitioning and reflecting and such.
Check back on the transcripts. You do need to speak aloud at least part of it.
(Sorry you aren’t feeling well!)
[godfaithful] ok I will check that...thank you Mambo
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome. Remember, you have to speak out at least a little bit.
[godfaithful] Sure...I will
[Mambo
Sam] Charlie...
[CharlieInez]
what about being in front of the candle
[CharlieInez]
sometimes my dogs want in or out and will get noisy if I don’t get moving
[CharlieInez]
and this has happened after lighting the candle a number of times
[CharlieInez]
I say the petition as I go to and from the door tho
[Mambo
Sam] If you have to get up, that is understandable. Try to stay focused if you
get interrupted. If you can’t stay focused during the interruption, just take a
deep breath and get back to it when you are back in front of the candle.
[CharlieInez]
oh good thank you
[Mambo
Sam] Some asked this: About the timing of adjunct and/or spellwork...I
understand that
[Mambo
Sam] The answer is that the time you start is what counts, not the time you
finish. So as long as you start before
[ouanga_bottle]
question then about timing
[Mambo
Sam] Yep, go ahead.
[ouanga_bottle]
because you did say that if you miss the timing or miss the day, you could
“catch” up and there were several times that I was too exhausted and slept and
got up early to do it
[ouanga_bottle]
I know that’s the exception... but it’s ok right???
[Mambo
Sam] Once in a 24 hour period. The 24 hour period is
midnight to midnight -- so if we always start at some point before
[Mambo
Sam] It may SEEM like we are doing it twice in one day
[Mambo Sam] because of the timing.
[ouanga_bottle]
so the next evening, I should move it to a.m.?
[Mambo
Sam] You can only “start” a spell once in a 24 hour period.
[Mambo
Sam] Does that make sense?
[ouanga_bottle]
I just want to be clear, if I normally do it at 12, and I sleep instead and do
it at
[ouanga_bottle]
and I see now that 11 and 12 are not the same, so if I started out the first
night at 11, the next night at 12, the next night at 6 a.m., I screwed it up a
bit huh
[Mambo
Sam] If you start at
[Mambo
Sam] and if you then started at
[Mambo
Sam] I am not sure how to make it clearer, my dear.
[ouanga_bottle]
gotcha, I’ll be better next time!
[ouanga_bottle]
and get more sleep
[babycakes] maybe use dates for Ouanga? Like if a session is
done on
[ouanga_bottle]
my head is spinning!
[Mambo
Sam] Good grief.... tee hee. Yes, thank you, actually
what you are saying made sense to me -- use the DATE, not the time.
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, absolutely.
[ouanga_bottle]
makes more sense now
[Mambo
Sam] Thank you!!
[ouanga_bottle]
thank you!
[babycakes] ty!
[CharlieInez]
I left 2 offerings for Papa Legba yesterday didn’t realize it until later is
that ok? and do we mark the tree with the chalk EACH
TIME because the mark was still on the tree from the last time. and how close to the intersection does the tree have to be?
I have one picked out about 40 feet from Intersection? is
2 offerings in one day a bad thing?
[Mambo
Sam] Two offerings is not a bad thing at all.
[CharlieInez]
YEAAA
[Mambo
Sam] Go over your chalk mark from the last time.
[Mambo
Sam] It’s okay, the tree doesn’t have to be near an intersection, but it is
great that it is. You are making a “crossroads” with the chalk. That is
the purpose of it.
[CharlieInez]
well, then I wasn’t doing so badly after all. thank
you very much .:}
[Mambo
Sam] So basically, you are making your own intersection (crossroads) with the
cross on the tree.
[Mambo
Sam] Nope, you were doing fine.
[CharlieInez]
OH ok..
[CharlieInez]
I hadn’t thought that the cross was my crossroads. makes
sense now
[waitingforastar] Good to know
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, Phantodrac.... I made a typo and it said Pantodrac, which was pretty
funny.
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway, go ahead.
[Mambo
Sam] Sorry...
[phantodrac] Hehe! pantodrac! :)///Is there anything special we should do if the ouanga
bottle we made at the lave tet breaks?I had a string of amazingly good luck,
and right after it all occurred, my bottle broke.
[ouanga_bottle]
I wondered what happened to me (haaaaa)
[Mambo
Sam] E-mail me....Phantodrac...
[phantodrac] okay!
[Mambo
Sam] VodouKat, go ahead, please.
[vodoukat02]
I always wondered why spells are never started on a Sunday?
[Mambo
Sam] Really it is a tradition... day of rest for the Mambos and Houngans! LOL. I am only half kidding...
[Mambo
Sam] it came into being through Christian tenets being infused into
Vodou/Voodoo tenets
[Mambo
Sam] and now there is the tradition behind it.
[vodoukat02] :}
[vodoukat02]
oh ok, thank you
[Mambo
Sam] Vodou/voodoo is really big on tradition and a lot of things are based on “because
that is how we do it” - structure and all of that!
[Mambo
Sam] You are welcome, vodoukat!
[vodoukat02] :}
[Mambo
Sam] Waitingforastar, are you there?
[waitingforastar] What’s interesting is that somehow
Christian tradition calls Sunday the Sabbath, likely with the resurrection of
Jesus on a Sunday, but from the beginning the sabbath
was Saturday and nothing biblical indicated a change.
[waitingforastar] Just an observation, but it seems Saturday
was always meant to be the Sabbath.
[Mambo
Sam] Yep... I think the preachers just wanted a day
off.
[waitingforastar] I agree
[Mambo
Sam] Alrighty.... so folks. There were other questions
that I didn’t get to, I will answer them in another
file like I posted today.
[waitingforastar] Yes, even Mambos need a day’s
rest
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, we do, I just never get one! LOL. Ask my
husband. Or Candi, or Bridget, or Berkeley! LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] So I will answer those things that I didn’t get to tonight.
[waitingforastar] I believe that:}
[Mambo
Sam] Next week I want to start with some basic teachings about the law.
[Mambo
Sam] I mean the lwa.
[Mambo
Sam] LOL.
[Mambo
Sam] Well, they are the law.
[vodoukat02]
lol
[godfaithful] :D
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway, do feel free to ask send in some questions ahead of time so I can
gauge what is needed to be covered the most and we will take it from there.
[Mambo
Sam] A Houngan I know has a shirt that says, “Possession is 9/10’s of the
lwa”
[simonegreenewpp] Nice!
[CharlieInez]
and I bet people think its a misspelled word
[vodoukat02]
Mambo, I have to log out; I wasn’t able to use the computer because of the
storms we are having tonight; I just popped in to basically say hi and that I
didn’t forget about your awesome class
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway.... just send those questions in and we will get started next week
on talking about the lwa. (Yep, Charlie, you are probably right!)
[Mambo
Sam] That’s Vodoukat - stay dry.
[Mambo
Sam] I meant, thanks....
[Mambo
Sam] I need to eat.
[Mambo
Sam]
[vodoukat02]
bye everyone
[godfaithful] Thanks so much Mambo
[ouanga_bottle]
thank you so much, again, mambo! get a good night’s
rest tonight! and everyone else too!
[Destiny]
You are so awesome Mambo, you are soooo amazing, thank
you so much!
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway, I also wanted to give you a heads up that I will not have chat on
Tuesday, uh.... May, darn it -
[Mambo
Sam] Tuesday after next - I think...
[Mambo
Sam] I forgot the date.
[godfaithful] 15TH?
[Mambo
Sam] YES! That’s it.
[Mambo
Sam] I think...
[Mambo
Sam] Something preplanned before the chats started.
[Mambo
Sam] But we will pick right up the next week.
[Desiree’]
No prayer meeting that night huh?
[Destiny]
Aww, you are coming to my house for my birthday, yes! That’s it!
[Mambo
Sam] I wish!!
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway, definitely next week - we will have fun!
[Mambo
Sam] As usual.
[bridget] Thank you Mambo!
[Destiny]
Good night, Mambo. Love you.
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, kiddos, see you next week. My love to you
all!!!!!! Kisses and hugs.
[phantodrac] Thank you! <3
[godfaithful] Good night dear Mambo
[Candelaria]
Don’t we have the best Mambo on the planet?
[bridget] Night!
[simonegreenewpp] Love to you too!
babycakes] thank you all! Good night
[Desiree’]
Good night everyone and have a wonderful week all of you. Thanks so much Mambo
- Chat was terrific as always. Get some rest...
[waitingforastar] Mambo is the best:}
[Mambo
Sam] Thank you all so much. See you soon!!!
[REDANGEL]
Goodnight all!!:}
[waitingforastar] Good night all, love and xxxx’s
[godfaithful] Good night DEAR:)
[waitingforastar] xox