Chat January 16, 2007
[schweety] Waves to
everyone
[simonegreenewpp] Waves back!
[echo868]
Hi
[heavenbls5] Hi
[the3rdwish13] Hi
[schweety] *Does a
little dance while we wait*
[Mambo Sam] Hello everyone, I am
having a little bit of trouble... for
some reason, the chatroom on
my screen is huge!! Like I am only seeing 1/4
of the chat room! So
I am going to log out and log back in and see if that
helps. Be
right back!
User Mambo Sam has logged out.
User Mambo Sam has
entered this room.
[Mambo Sam] Okay, back to normal. That was
really strange!
[Mambo Sam] Well, good evening every one, it is
good to see you all here!
Tonight I wanted to pick up with our
teaching on the Simbi Lwa,
particularly Simbi Andezo. If you
remember, we talked about doing a ritual
to wrap up the petitions
that you have sent in for the holiday ritual that
myself and the
rest of the Voodoo family has been doing on your behalf.
[Mambo
Sam] Or is that behalves? Hmmm... Anyway...
[simonegreenewpp]
Beehives
[Candelaria] Halves make a whole. :-)
[ouanga_bottle]
Behave
[Mambo Sam] Silly... Anyway....
[Mambo Sam] So we will
be working with three of the family of Simbis:
Simbi Andezo, Simbi
Dlo and Simbi Makaya.
[Mambo Sam] So tonight we will be talking
about Simbi Andezo.
[Mambo Sam] Before we get completely
started into that, first let’s talk
just a moment about the
fact that these are Petro Lwa. I know we have
touched a bit in the
past about the different between the Petro Lwa, the
Rada Lwa, and
the Ghede Lwa being three distinctly different groups of
Lwa. For
those of you who are not familiar with these groups, we will
discuss
it very briefly tonight and you can look back on the transcripts
to
see a more detailed discussion, plus we will discuss it in even
more
detail as we progress along.
[Mambo Sam] Oh, let me
digress a moment... about the transcripts. I am
currently making
an index for the transcripts and will set them up on a
web page so
that you can more easily access information. I think I might
have
mentioned this before. So once that is all done, I will send out
an
e-mail to all the chat participants so that you can access the
transcripts
in a bit of a more organized fashion.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, so back to the subject at hand, anyway...
[Mambo Sam] I
wanted to touch a bit on the Petro and Rada because it is
such a
common myth that the Petro Lwa are the “darker, more
malevolent
type of Lwa.” But that is not exactly true.
Mostly the split between these
two groups comes from where they
originated. They originated in two
totally different places —
the Rada from Dahomey and the Petro from the
Kongo — now
there are some exceptions to that and we can discuss that more
in
depth at a later date. The point here is that you are basically
dealing
with two different groups of people (when they were
people) — with
different backgrounds, different cultures,
etc.
[Mambo Sam] The easiest way to describe the difference
between them is
that the Rada Lwa are cooler and the Petro Lwa are
hotter. Additionally,
in some cases, the Petro Lwa are often seen
as more taking “offensive”
action while the Rada Lwa
are often seen as taking more “defensive”
action. It
is a subject definitely for some study later on! But the Petro
Lwa
are extremely wonderful to work with. They are fun, easy to
excite,
and actually pretty easy to please as long as you know
what it is they
want.
[Mambo Sam] Questions thus far,
though I don’t want to get into too much
discussion about
Petro/Rada, but we can talk about it briefly if you
have
questions.
[ouanga_bottle] Question
[Mambo Sam] Yes, go
ahead, please.
[ouanga_bottle] Can you please clarify what you
mean by offensive vs
defensive in the context of asking for their
help?
[Mambo Sam] I will go into it briefly. And
offensive/defensive may not be
the best way of looking at it.
However, the Petro Lwa have a tendency to
rush headlong into
things.
[ouanga_bottle] I understand the role they played in the
Haitian
revolution, and I have done the Makayan service asking for
justice...
[Mambo Sam] Rada Lwa are more strategic, stopping to
plan, and tend to be
maybe more organized. Rada is when cooler
heads prevail. To me, they
complement each other. Sort of the ying
and the yang of the world of
Voodoo. If that makes sense —
sorry computer lag there...
[Destiny] ??
[ouanga_bottle] Sorta
like the united nations style compared to preemptive
strike?
;-)
[Mambo Sam] Yeah, something like that! ;-)
[ouanga_bottle]
Not that preemptive strike is a good example...
[Mambo Sam] Well,
I know what you mean.... It is hard to describe the
difference
sometimes, especially because it has been so romanticized. But
I
think you get the idea.
[ouanga_bottle] Yes! Thank you!
[Mambo
Sam] Destiny, go ahead please.
[Destiny] Is it true that an honest
mistake will not anger a Rada Lwa, but
an honest mistake is not
that easily forgiven by a Petro Lwa?
[Mambo Sam] Not necessarily.
Honestly I feel all the Lwa have some degree
of understanding of a
person making an honest mistake. And that can depend
upon whom you
are working with. If you chose to work with a Lwa who is
TRULY
known for a violent, angry temper (Bossou, for instance), then
you
should know what you are doing. However, for most of the Lwa,
I do find
that mistakes are either easily forgiven, or easily
appeased. BUT, when
you have been a practitioner for awhile and
you are doing service and have
been learning, then you will be
expected to know more and do things more
properly.
[Destiny] oh
I see, thank you!
[Mambo Sam] You are welcome!
[Mambo Sam]
Anyone else?
[Mambo Sam] Okay, so as I had mentioned, I will
be giving you all a ritual
to do that hopefully we will do
together online or you can do it on your
own.
[Mambo Sam] So
let’s talk for a minute about Simbi Andezo and what we
will
need for working with him. The needs of the Simbi Lwa can be
quite simple,
Andezo and Dlo especially, Makaya asks a bit more.
But for Andezo you will
want to have a glass of fresh water (out
of the tap is fine, but if you
want to get spring water, even
better) and a glass of salted water (you
can salt it yourself or
if you are lucky enough to be near the ocean, get
ocean water).
Blue, white, and silver candles are lovely for Andezo.
[Mambo
Sam] And speaking of annoying the Lwa... I have seen written
many
times that Simbi Andezo is “made” when Simbi Dlo
and Simbi Makaya join.
[Mambo Sam] Uh, what?
[Mambo Sam]
Honestly, nothing could be further from the truth, don’t
believe
it! Because Simbi Andezo is a completely different individual and
is
honored as such.
[Mambo Sam] I think part of the problem comes
from some interpretation of
Haitian Kreyol. The Kreyol word for
water is “dlo.” So you see in songs
for Simbi Andezo
the words “Simbi dlo.” But those are not songs for
Simbi
Dlo. It means Simbi of the water or Simbi in two waters in
some of the
songs. But people just see the word “dlo”
and don’t know any Kreyol and
have a knee jerk reaction to
thinking that those are songs for Simbi Dlo.
So most songs are
listed for Simbi Andezo as such, when you see them.
However,
people start to get confused when they see the dlo in there. I
will
show you an example in a minute.
[Mambo Sam] Because the next
important thing you want to know is that
Simbi Andezo is a very
good friend of Ogoun Feraille’s. Simbi Andezo is
considered
the patron and guardian of the coast. When Ogoun’s army
needs
to march near the water or go to battle near the water, he
will consult
with Simbi Andezo for the best way to do it. So you
are going to see Ogoun
in the ritual that we will be doing as he
is happy to bring his strength
and power to anything that Simbi
Andezo is working with. Interestingly, I
have never seen any
evidence or writings of Ogoun being close to any other
Simbi.
[Mambo
Sam] So here is a song for Simbi Andezo
Simbi nan dlo, Simbi
nan dlo, Simbi nan kay moin (x2)
Papa Ogoun sot nan Simbi nan dlo
Simbi nan dlo, kay li.
Simbi (of the water), Simbi (of the
water) stays in his house
Papa Ogoun went to visit with Simbi (of
the water) Simbi (of the water),
stays in house.
[Mambo
Sam] Sorry, I couldn’t get it to format correctly in the
chat
window. However, you can see that it refers to “Simbi
nan dlo” — that is
where some confusion definitely
comes in. And so I put that in parentheses
just for illustrative
purposes. It is not a song for Simbi Dlo and yet
anywhere other
than Haiti I have heard this song dedicated to Simbi Dlo!
Of
course, since it is their language, that doesn’t happen in
Haiti.
[Mambo Sam] This song, of course, is showing the
relationship between
Ogoun and Simbi where Ogoun is going to ask
Simbi some advice; Ogoun goes
to battle, Simbi stays in the house!
:-D
[Mambo Sam] So we will put that song in the transcript, of
course, and use
it in the ritual. I know it is hard to do these
songs with no tune.
However, if you just turn them into chants, or
do something with a beat,
or even make up a tune, that is fine! It
is really the words that count
and we sing to honor and call the
Lwa. I don’t think they care that much
about the tune or
even if you can sing on key!
[Mambo Sam] So we know we need
two glasses of water, some candles, now we
know a song. :-) Right
there you actually have enough to call on Simbi
Andezo.
[Mambo
Sam] But there is another offering that I really like to give,
though
I don’t actually know if it qualifies as an offering! :-D —
it sort
of an environmental offering. I like to build a little
habitat for Simbi
Andezo.
[Mambo Sam] A nice glass bowl or even
a plastic one is fine. I put in
rocks, dirt, water, and some green
plant if I can, or at least green
leaves. More water than the
other stuff, but a nice bottom of dirt and
rocks and then some
green plant stuff.
[Mambo Sam] I like for this to be clear so that
I can see on all sides
because this can also work as a divining
tool. Looking into the water,
around the sides, etc. I can tell
you from experience that he really,
really likes this so feel free
to use it anytime and when we list out the
ritual I will put that
in there as a possible part of your altar that you
can
use.
[simonegreenewpp] Like a fishbowl / aquarium?
[Mambo Sam]
Sure, it could be a fishbowl, that would be great or an
aquarium.
I have a big glass bowl that I use, but I think a fishbowl would
be
great especially if you want to leave it dedicated to him and keep
it
“active.”
[Mambo Sam] Okay, other questions
about everything thus far?
[eveningstarmystic] ?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, Eveningstarmystic, go ahead, please.
[eveningstarmystic] Can
we actually add fish to it? I used to keep fire
belly toads in
just the same kind of set up
[Mambo Sam] I suppose you could.....
hmmmm.... I don’t know, he might eat
them. Really. You might
be better off using toads than fish.
[simonegreenewpp]
??
[eveningstarmystic] okay
[Mambo Sam] He would probably think
the fish were an offering!
[ouanga_bottle] snort
[Mambo Sam]
Unlike Agwe, Simbi Andezo will eat fish and it is an offering
that
he likes.
[Candelaria] Mmmmmmm, fish...
[Mambo Sam] Yes,
Simone. Go ahead, please.
[simonegreenewpp] I remember some kind
of plants, ivy or something...
[Mambo Sam] Yep, they will grow in
the water — ivy definitely will.
[simonegreenewpp] I’ve
seen them in glass bowls with a few marbles to keep
them in place,
mostly water and not much dirt.
[creaturefever]
?
[simonegreenewpp] That would work?
[Mambo Sam] For
sure!
[Mambo Sam] That will work and you can keep it as a
permanent offering.
[the3rdwish13] ?
[simonegreenewpp] Ok,
thanks!
[Mambo Sam] You are welcome. Creaturefever and then
3rdwish.
[creaturefever] How about the water bamboo that is so
popular these days
[Mambo Sam] I think that would work very
nicely! Makes a nice dedication
to Simbi and no one is the wiser,
like the ivy plants!
[the3rdwish13] I had the same question as
Creaturefever
[Mambo Sam] I guess that water bamboo IS
popular!
[Mambo Sam] So any other questions about what we have
discussed thus far?
[simonegreenewpp] the stealth altar...
[Mambo
Sam] LOL, right! So many people need the stealth
altar!
[ouanga_bottle] Just like my big model ship for
Agwe!
[Mambo Sam] Yep, people just don’t know the
difference.
[Mambo Sam] Okay, so a few other offerings for
Simbi Andezo are quite
simple things: Fish, rice, bananas or
plantains. Simbi Andezo’s needs are
pretty basic. The most
important thing is the water. Or waters, I should
say.
[Mambo
Sam] Okay, so as you know, we have all been working on the
petitions
that you have sent in.
[the3rdwish13] ?
[Mambo Sam] Yes,
3rdwish? Go ahead, please.
[the3rdwish13] I didn’t send a
petition.... And have no idea what you are
talking about...
sorry!
[Mambo Sam] Oh I am sorry, you should have gotten a couple
of e-mails
about it! Perhaps they got caught in your spam
filter.
[the3rdwish13] :-(
[nubianprincess32] question
[Mambo
Sam] Anyway, you can actually still send them in if you
like.
[the3rdwish13] Ok.... Thank you! How?
[Mambo Sam] Send
them to holidayprayers@spellmaker.com
[creaturefever] :-( Me
too
[Mambo Sam] We have been working on them since December and
will wrap up with the ritual we are planning now. So go ahead
and get them in.
[Mambo Sam] Nubianprincess, go ahead,
please.
[nubianprincess32] I was unable to get mine
in...
[heavenbls5] ?
[Mambo Sam] Just go ahead and send them in
to the address above.
[the3rdwish13] ?
[Mambo Sam] Heavenbls5
and then 3rdwish. Go ahead when you are
ready
Heavenbls5.
[heavenbls5] This is my first time on here
and I want to know am I to late
for any of it.
[Mambo Sam] No,
not at all!
[heavenbls5] Thanks
[Mambo Sam] Since some of
you are new, let me go ahead and recap a little
bit and then we
will take questions starting up with 3rdwish again.
[Mambo Sam] If
you are new, we started working on holiday prayers since it
tends
to be a time of year when people are down and feeling emotional.
So
we asked that everyone send in their petitions for their case,
their life,
their family, friends, each other, whatever you
want.
[Mambo Sam] Since that time myself, Parran Matt, and Sister
Bridget and
Sister Candelaria (our New Orleans Voodoo family) have
been working
rituals with these petitions. Now we are bringing you
all into the ritual
which will end around the day of Mardi Gras
(probably actually the day
after because that will be a
Wednesday). There are religious and spiritual
reasons for why it
was done that way and that is explained in another
transcript
which I will post shortly and send everyone an e-mail with the
new
way to access past transcripts.
[Mambo Sam] Whew! Did that make
sense? :-)
[Candelaria] Yep
[the3rdwish13] you answered my
question.... THANK YOU
[Mambo Sam] Yay!
[heavenbls5] Yes,
thanks
[Mambo Sam] Ah, good!
[nubianprincess32] Yes it did.
Thanks!
[Mambo Sam] Okay, so any other questions about anything we
have discussed
thus far before I move on? Okay, great. And, people
who are new, don’t be
afraid to ask questions! No one here
is going to think you are stupid.
This is a place to learn in a
safe environment. :-)
[Mambo Sam] So, about those rituals and
petitions!
[Mambo Sam] When I started working the petitions, if
you have had spell
work or were having spell work at the same
time, I figured that into your
petitions, even if you didn’t
petition for it particularly. Some of you
were very kind and
simply asked that the group as a whole have their
dreams come
true. :-) I thought that was very sweet.
[Mambo Sam] And some of
you didn’t ask for anything for yourself, but
asked for
others — friends, chat friends, family members, etc. However,
if
I know you, I added those things in for you. Because I am your
Mambo and
that is what I do. To answer the question of “why?”
:-D
[Candelaria] I was deeply touched by that and so proud of all
of you! :-)
[ouanga_bottle] Aww you so sweet!
[Mambo Sam]
Awwww....
[Mambo Sam] So that is what I started out doing. I
worked on them for
awhile, and then brought Parran Matt into the
ritual. Then the two lovely
and talented sisters — Sister B
and Sister C. ;-) And they are currently
doing their part for
you.
[Candelaria] Ah, shucks, Ma’am!
[Mambo Sam]
;-)
[Mambo Sam] So a lot of effort is going into this and
hopefully it will
bring some awesome results when we are all said
and done!!! :-)
[Sunshine] Bushels of hugs to all you !!!!
[Mambo
Sam] Oh thank you!
[Mambo Sam] So now..... We get to bring all of
you into the ritual, if you
wish to participate! So you see how
that builds on itself? That is a lot
of energy going into those
petitions! So even those people who are just
now getting their
petitions in are going to benefit because there is still
a lot of
work to go into this! So get those petitions in if you
haven’t
already!
[PATRICKinCALI] ??
[Mambo Sam] Go
ahead, Patrick.
[PATRICKinCALI] Might the object of our petitions
react like they do
during spell work?
[Mambo Sam] Not in this
work. This is more layered and has a more “subtle”
quality
to it.
[PATRICKinCALI] More like healing type work?
[Mambo Sam]
Sort of. Yep.
[PATRICKinCALI] OK, thanks
[Mambo Sam] You are
welcome.
[Mambo Sam] Okay, any more questions?
[ouanga_bottle]
comment
[Mambo Sam] Yes, Ouanga, go ahead, please.
[ouanga_bottle]
I just want to say heartfelt thanks to all four of you for
everything
you’re doing — and putting so much effort into this.
Thank
you!!!!!!!
[PATRICKinCALI] ditto
[simonegreenewpp] Me
three!
[nubianprincess32] same here
[heavenbls5] me
too
[Destiny] same here, love you!
[Sunshine] ditto,
ditto
[Mambo Sam] Thank you, it is definitely our
pleasure!
[Candelaria] You’re all very welcome. It is our
pleasure to be of service.
[Sunshine] comment
[Mambo Sam] Yes,
Sunshine, go ahead, please.
[Sunshine] No where else would we get
this — only here at Spellmaker....
[Mambo Sam] Aw, thank
you, honey!
[PATRICKinCALI] ??
[ouanga_bottle] exactly!!!
(((((love))))))
[Sunshine] You are so very welcome. We love you
all.
[Mambo Sam] We are like the little engine that could! I mean,
at the heart
of it, we are really such a small company. But we try
hard!
[Mambo Sam] But thank you, Sunshine, thank you so
much!
[ouanga_bottle] And you’ve done wonderful things, so
much progress this year!
[Mambo Sam] Thanks, Ouanga!
[Mambo
Sam] Yes, Patrick, go ahead.
[PATRICKinCALI] Does SM sell silver
and blue candles?
[Mambo Sam] Well, blue for sure. Silver usually
is pretty easy to find at
wedding shops and craft
places.
[PATRICKinCALI] And do we dress them in any
fashion?
[eveningstarmystic] ?
[Mambo Sam] We will get to that,
Patrick! There you go, trying to move to
the head of the
class!
[PATRICKinCALI] Sorry sorry!!
[Mambo Sam] Oh, no
apologies, Patrick!
[Mambo Sam] Eveningstarmystic, go ahead,
please.
[eveningstarmystic] Any particular shade of blue to
use
[Mambo Sam] Not necessarily — almost any blue will
do.
[eveningstarmystic] okay
[Mambo Sam] Did I miss anyone? If
so, go ahead, please.
[Mambo Sam] Okay. So you have some
basics down for what we will need for
Simbi Andezo.
[Mambo Sam]
The way the ritual will be done is we will split it into
three
parts.
[Mambo Sam] So start thinking about your petitions
or even what you might
want to add to your own petitions.
[Mambo
Sam] For Simbi Andezo you want to be thinking in terms of what is
the
way what you to happen can happen... what is the “strategy”
of what
you want. Word your petitions for Simbi Andezo in that way
— tell him how
you think those things might happen.
[Mambo
Sam] Does that make sense? Anyone not getting what I am
saying?
[schweety] Raises her hand LOLO
[nubianprincess32] No
not really
[Mambo Sam] Go ahead Schweety.
[eveningstarmystic]
?
[Destiny] ?
[Mambo Sam] Schweety and then Eveningstartmystic
and Destiny.
[schweety] Whew I thought I was the only one......
Sooo to clarify, I tell
him how I think things should go?
[Mambo
Sam] The actual “how” it might happen — a scenario,
some possible
solutions.
[schweety] ok
gotcha
[eveningstarmystic] Can we write it out on paper. Like
goals with an
outline? Or do we just think it?
[Mambo Sam]
Think in the terms of your petition as a “problem” and
then
offer solutions to the problem. Give him some options. He is
a strategist.
You can write it out on paper and read it. At some
point you will need to
say some things aloud.
[simonegreenewpp]
Analytical?
[Mambo Sam] Very.
[Mambo Sam]
Destiny?
[Destiny] With Simbi Andezo, we can write some scenarios
of how we want
our petition to evolve? And he can possibly have it
happen the way we want
it to happen?
[creaturefever] ?
[Mambo
Sam] The whole ritual is meant to help you have happen what you
want
to happen. You are going to have to talk to him. All of you, I
mean.
[Destiny] oh, ok, thank you.
[Mambo Sam]
Creaturefever?
[creaturefever] Would we approach it in a more
businesslike way then an
emotional appeal
[Mambo Sam] That is a
very good point!!!!! And yes. Simbi is sort of like
Agwe in the
sense that he tends to think things through and approach the
problem
by looking at it from different angles. Planning things out. So,
yes,
looking at everything from a more businesslike approach with him
is
good. Thank you, that is great!
[Mambo Sam] So, we will
go over this more when we talk about the other two
Simbis and then
things will make more sense because we will split things
into the
three parts. So I think it will all make more sense then.
[Mambo
Sam] So, let’s see, I think Mardi Gras is around February 5,
this
year.... So if we do the ritual day after, that would be a
Wednesday
night. Can someone look that up and see if that is
correct. It would be
Ash Wednesday, so that is a good day to end
this ritual.
[simonegreenewpp] Yes, the 6th is Ash
Wednesday.
[eveningstarmystic] Feb. 6 is a Wednesday.
[Mambo
Sam] Perfect, in fact, since the “group” part of it
started on
January 6.
[creaturefever] comment
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, so that doesn’t give us a ton of time. We will go
through
both of the other Simbis next week, get your questions, and then
I
will give you all the total ritual.
[Mambo Sam] Yes,
Creaturefever?
[creaturefever] Yikes how did I miss it... I have
tried to log onto chat
for several weeks!
[schweety] Feb. 6 is
my birthday. Oops just had to throw that in
[Mambo Sam] Oh,
fun!
[Mambo Sam] I don’t know. We were on a break — I
sent out an e-mail that
we would be on a break, and then we
started up again in January.
[creaturefever] Can I find
transcripts to catch up ?
[Mambo Sam] Yes, Creaturefever, I am
going to be organizing the
transcripts a bit better than I have
them now and will send out an e-mail.
You might want to check your
profile where you signed up for the chat and
make sure that your
correct e-mail address is in there. A few e-mails
bounce back to
me when I send out e-mails for the group, so be sure your
e-mail
address is correct in there.
[the3rdwish13] ?
[Mambo Sam] And
that goes for all of you, make sure we have an e-mail
address in
the chat profile that actually works!
[Mambo Sam] 3rdwish, go
ahead, please.
[the3rdwish13] Chat profile? Sorry where is
that?
[Mambo Sam] Where you signed up for the chat.
[the3rdwish13]
I’ll look for it...
[Mambo Sam] You can change your user
name, password, etc.
[the3rdwish13] Ok! Thank you
[Mambo Sam]
If you can’t find it, e-mail office@spellmaker.com and get
some
help!
[Mambo Sam] Okay, that is all I have for tonight. We
will be getting a lot
of information next week, then the ritual,
then before you know it, we
will be doing the ritual! And it is
okay if you cannot do it online with
us. This will be a ritual you
can keep and do for yourself any time. It
isn’t just a one
time thing.
[Mambo Sam] So any question before we wrap it
up?
[Destiny] oh, cool!
[Mambo Sam] Okay, it has been
wonderful! I will see all of you next week.
More
Simbis!
[the3rdwish13] Good Night
[Mambo Sam] Everyone have a
safe and peaceful week.
[simonegreenewpp] Thank you!
[schweety]
bye night
[nubianprincess32] Good night
[heavenbls5] Good night
all
[Mambo Sam] Good night! You are welcome!
[creaturefever]
nighty
[Mambo Sam] Much Love.
[Candelaria] Night everyone and
welcome to all of our new folks!
[Rowan586] Good Night and Sweet
Dreams all
[Sunshine] Goodnight ALL — until next week
—
[Mambo Sam] XOXO
[ouanga_bottle] good
night!!!
[sexychicaferrari] Thank You Mambo Sam — good nite
everyone
[lavender] Good Night
[Mambo Sam] Yes, welcome to all
of you who are joining us for the first time.
[Mambo Sam] Good
night.
[PATRICKinCALI] Good night and thank you!
[Destiny] good
night everybody!
[Candelaria] OK Simone my love. Sister Candi
is still at work and
desperately need to go home. Let me know when
you’re done.
[simonegreenewpp] I’m at work, too! Looks
like everyone is finished.
[Candelaria] OK, cool. Well, everyone.
I have to shut down the chat room
now. Have a great night and
thank you so much for being a part of our
night together!