Chat August
21, 2008
[The3rdwish13]
hello!
[Mambo Sam]
Hello, class. Good to see you all here. I will take some time before we move on
to take some questions, if you have them, about the “trick” and the “result” if
anyone is still unclear on that. Then we will move on.
Which of my
lovely daughters is keeping the question list tonight?
[sister
bridget] Sister C ;-)
[Mambo Sam]
Perfect. Thank you! Sister C. Are you ready? :-)
[Sister
Candelaria] Yep, I’m ready.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay perfect.
[Michaelseraph]
Hello everyone
[Mambo Sam]
So hopefully most of you received my e-mail about the new class guidelines.
[Michaelseraph]
Good evening Mambo Sam
[Mambo Sam]
If you have any confusion about the guidelines or have not had a chance to do
so, then please click on the link at the top of the screen and go read them.
There is a link there that will return you to the chatroom area.
Hello
Michaelseraph — welcome, I believe you are a new student. :-) You may
want to take a moment and go read the guidelines for the chat class.
So before we
start I do want to go over how we will now take questions and comments in the
class. As most of you know, priorly I handled the “list” of people who put
their hands up or used a question mark, or whatever you use to ask to be
acknowledged. However, that system seemed to be lacking as apparently I was
missing people and did not realize it.
So now I
will ask that you simply say, “hand up” or use a ? to show that you wish to
speak or whatever method you wish to use to show that you have a question or
comment. Tonight Sister C. will keep a list and I will ask her to start calling
on you as soon as I am ready to take your questions. :-) I am in hopes
that this will keep down the missing of folks who want to speak. Additionally,
I do want to say that it is never my intention to miss anyone, and it is never
the Sisters intention to miss anyone, but despite rumors to the contrary, we
are all still human. ;-) So if I asked if I missed anyone, don’t just sit
there, speak up.
Okay, so
now... before we move on in our lessons about Papa Legba, I wanted to just make
sure that we have clarification on the usage of Papa Legba as The Trickster. If
you are new and haven’t had a chance to read the transcripts, a lot of this
might not make sense to you, so please bear with us and definitely read the
transcripts when you have time. :-)
So as I said
in my note in the last transcript, I felt that there was definitely some
misunderstanding on the difference between the trick and the result of the
trick. And don’t feel bad if you still aren’t quite getting it. It isn’t a
subject that we are going to abandon forever. It is simply that we do need to
move on. In fact, speaking of things that we have already done, I do plan
sometime in the next few months to do a few “review” nights and go over some of
the highlights of things we have done because as new people come on board, they
don’t have the chance to ask their own questions that might not be covered in
the transcripts. So I think a few review nights will definitely be in order in
upcoming months.
[The3rdwish13]
?
[Mambo Sam]
Okay! So before we move on to the next aspect of our Papa Legba lessons, any
questions? Go ahead and put your hands up so that Sister C. can make a list. We
see 3rdwish. Anyone else?
[Michaelseraph]
?
[Sister
Candelaria] Go ahead 3rdwish.
[Mambo Sam]
Don’t be shy people.
[The3rdwish13]
Mambo, there is something I don’t get....... I understand how to write down
with him the tricks, results, etc. but... How do we actually ask him to DO
it.... Does it make sense?
[Mambo Sam]
Do you mean how do you approach Papa Legba?
[The3rdwish13]
Meaning the actual “ritual” to ask him to do the trick we wrote. Yes... like
when we wrote the petitions with the candle, the water, etc... and then used
the petition with the doll, etc...
[Mambo Sam]
We will incorporate it into the ritual we will all do together, however, you
can interject it into any work that you are doing — candle work, spell kits,
dolls, etc., right at the spot where you are going to call on him anyway, if
the regular ritual calls for that.
[The3rdwish13]
Ohhh ok, it’s for the ritual that we will do together?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, but as I said above, you can interject it into any work that you are
doing.
[The3rdwish13]
Thank youuuu
[Mambo Sam]
Or a cocktail hour. Or even just a cup of coffee with Papa Legba.
[The3rdwish13]
I wrote the trick, results, etc today! Very coooollll by the way, but wasn’t
sure how to tell him to do it.
[waitingforastar]
?
[Mambo Sam]
In some of the classes that you missed, we discussed that you do not have to do
a formal ritual, per se, to do this.
[The3rdwish13]
I read everything! But was confused. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
[Mambo Sam]
But since most ritual involves calling upon Papa Legba, you can just add this
to it. :-)
[The3rdwish13]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
You are welcome!
[Mambo Sam]
And the next contestant is....
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Michaelseraph, go ahead with your question.
[Michaelseraph]
thanks Sister Candelaria and Mambo, can you explain the concept of “writing the
trick”?
[Mambo Sam]
We have already covered that, and it is discussed extensively in the
transcripts. :-) The transcripts are located at
www.spellmaker.com/chatinformation/transcriptindex.htm
[Michaelseraph]
ok thanks Mambo
[Mambo Sam]
And there are a LOT of them, so don’t get daunted by it. Just work your way
through them. Tons of information and welcome to class!! :-)
[Michaelseraph]
Thanks so much, it’s a blessing to be here. May I ask one more question?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes.
[Michaelseraph]
I like the coffee with Papa Legba idea and the cocktail hour, I thought of
having a dinner party for all the Loa with Papa Legba beside me and the other
Loa in a circle. Is it possible?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, you can. :-) There are many ways to do that. When you look back
through the transcripts you will see that we have done some group rituals and
that we also have other ideas for service. There are just a few protocols to
observe, such as calling on Papa Legba, of course. And within those transcripts
there are different services to different Lwa and lists of the foods that they
like and colors, and such.
[Michaelseraph]
All this is so new and so fascinating to me, thanks for the info Mambo.
[Mambo Sam]
However, just about ANY service that is done with a good heart is more than
acceptable. So don’t get too, too caught up in the details.... All of those
details come with the learning portion of things, but your heart is your heart
and that which do from there will be readily accepted and appreciated. Good to
have you aboard! You are welcome, Michael.
[Michaelseraph]
Ok thanks Mambo. I’m honored to be with you here and everyone.
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[pamunkeyjo]
?
[Mambo Sam]
And the next victim, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] Alright WFAS, go ahead honey.
[newtospells]
?
[waitingforastar]
So it should always be within a ritual type setting such as spell, doll, candle
work and never just call on him without doing some kind of work, another words
say in the middle of your day you think to ask him to do a trick, you shouldn’t
just up and call him and ask him right there without doing some kind of ritual
or work?
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, WFAS, no, you don’t have to do a whole ritual nor do you have to do
adjunct work. You can interject the request into adjunct work or work it into a
ritual. I didn’t cover too much about how to ask Papa all of this simply
because I wanted to make sure that everyone got the actual concept first. Just
as with all requests to the Lwa, you will want to make the request clear. And
do something to make sure you are at least paying attention to what you want at
that time.
I would not
recommend just sitting at a red light and going, “oh Papa, here’s the trick,
and what I want to happen.” You do need to take a few minutes, at least... and
call on him. Then ask him for what you want. And a small offering would be in
order, of course. I will teach you all more about how to put this into an actual
ritual.
[Sunshine]
Hand up
[waitingforastar]
So we should call for a few minutes? And an offering sometime afterwards?
[Mambo Sam]
But for other small requests, yes, you can just ask “off the cuff.” as we have
talked about before, the better your relationship with a particular Lwa, the
more you will find yourself just conversing with them. :-) It will also
have to do with WHAT you are asking for Papa to do and what you want the result
to be.
[waitingforastar]
Smaller requests meaning something simpler than a trick?
[Mambo Sam]
If you are just asking for something extremely simple, then you may not need to
do a lot of preparation and you don’t need to get too complicated. But
the harder your request, the more you need to pay attention to how you are asking
and what you are doing to get this to happen. Even though the Lwa are not
“human” in the conventional sense, they do still have a sense of when they are
being taken advantage of vs. when they are being honored and doing something
nice in return. Make sense, WFAS?
[waitingforastar]
Yes, you want to give him propers and not just say yo Papa do this for me :-D
[Mambo Sam]
Yes I do.... And so does he. ;-)
[waitingforastar]
Which of course, I would never do.
[Mambo Sam]
:-D I know, but sometimes it is kind of okay... I do it all the time to
get a darned parking spot. ;-)
[waitingforastar]
:-D
[Mambo Sam]
But I honor him so much every single day with spell work, that I am in a pretty
good position to call in a few small favors. ;-)
[waitingforastar]
;-)
[Mambo Sam]
So all kidding aside, that is not a bad thing to remember... If you are someone
who does a lot of service and rituals and spell work, etc., you are positioning
yourself to have some pretty good spiritual friends. Which means when you need
that sort of “911” help you don’t need to go through a lot of formal ritual to
get some help — you will have already established a good relationship with many
Lwa and, therefore, can have a lot more leeway as to what you are asking for.
[Michaelseraph]
?
[waitingforastar]
Good to know. Thank you so much xoxo. I do like to talk to him often though.
[Mambo Sam]
I mean obviously that all happens over time.... but with many of you here you
have been doing spell work for a long time and you have built a lot of relationships
that you may not be taking full advantage of and we can definitely talk about
that in another class. ;-)
You are
welcome, WFAS, and of all the Lwa, talking to Papa Legba is always a good
thing! I know I have poured my heart out to him on many, many occasions.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, who is next, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Pamunkeyjo... Your turn.
[pamunkeyjo]
Is it possible to get Papa’s attention by doing some celebration for children?
Like candy?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, definitely.
[redrose] ?
[pamunkeyjo]
Would it have to be like a party?
[Mambo Sam]
There is definitely that child like aspect of Papa Legba that can be called
upon and offerings such as candy, small toys (he loves whistles, by the way,
and I have found him to have a great fondness for yo-yo’s — can’t keep them on
my altar, they disappear), things of that nature are really good offerings. So
it does not have to be like a whole party. However, a very good “ritual” for
Papa Legba is to go to something like a Dollar Store or Target or whatever you
have in your town and buy those really cheap packs of birthday party
decorations. They will have hats and noisemakers and plates, stuff like that.
And then either make a small birthday cake or even buy just cupcakes... Set it
up like a little birthday party and offer it to Papa. Because he is both
“forever young” and “forever old” he loves those kinds of things.
[pamunkeyjo]
Wow. Ok, thanks. I was wondering about that child part for those of us
superadults.
[Mambo Sam]
I mean, you can do it really on the cheap. I mean I have done it for less than
$10.00 before. :-) And you can keep most of the decorations, etc., and
reuse them. :-)
[pamunkeyjo]
Good, I’m cheap. Sorry but true!
[Mambo Sam]
:-D — these days we all have to be, don’t we??? $5.00 for a gallon of milk,
puhleeze. Anyway... I think I mentioned in one of the transcripts that the
actual initiation in Santeria for Papa Legba involves like a children’s
birthday party. :-) So, yes, definitely those types of things are a big
hit. :-)
My darned
keyboard is sticking. I spilled Kool-Aid on it the other day. Three grandkids
and they don’t spill a drop, but I spill half a glass. Anyway...
[pamunkeyjo]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
Thank you Pamunkeyjo! Did that answer it for you?
[pamunkeyjo]
Yes. Thanks and a few ideas to add to that!
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
Who’s next on the hit list, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] Next up is Newtospells. What’s your question for da Mambo Lady?
[newtospells]
This is long, sorry, and we are doing dual castings right now. Just today I was
at a red light in downtown (City) and I noticed an old man with a cane walking
a dog, that looked exactly like my dog that died about a month ago, on the
crosswalk in front of me. This morning I asked Papa if I could have any sign
that the Lwa are helping me with my case (which I do often) and I left a
coconut candy and cup of coffee on my table this morning when I left for class.
When the light turned green he was gone, this couldn’t be my imagination as I
know he was there plain as day. What do you think?
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[newtospells]
Sorry, that was long
[Mambo Sam]
You know, it is a funny thing..... I think clients tell me of more “visual”
manifestations of Papa Legba than anyone else! :-)
[newtospells]
I think I have had more than this one.
[Mambo Sam]
And it happens to me, too... I will see an old man with a cane.... And a
dog.... Or a straw bag and a dog... :-) I always, always, always take it
as a sign that he wants us to know that he has heard us and that he is with us
and that he is working on our behalf.
[newtospells]
That is very good to know. It was an amazing sight I do have to say, especially
with my Saint Bernard that recently died.
[Mambo Sam]
I mean not that he doesn’t just want to say “hi,” but honestly that kind of physical
manifestation takes an extraordinary amount of strength for a Lwa and so I have
come over the years to believe that when we see Papa, it is an extremely strong
sign that he is around us and wants us to know that for a specific reason —
such as you asking for a sign and/or letting you know that he is on the job and
wants you to know that. Not that this necessarily applies to you, but in
general, sometimes I have found that he will show up often when faith might be
flagging or we are feeling down about our case, something like that. So I
think, to answer your question, he definitely had something to show you. :-)
[newtospells]
Well, he has been providing for me lately I can say that much, and it is a good
feeling. That’s awesome! Thanks Mambo
[Mambo Sam]
You are welcome. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
Before we go on Sister C., may I ask, did we miss anyone yet? Please let us
know if we did.
[Michaelseraph]
?
[Mambo Sam]
I want to try very hard not to miss anyone who has their hand up. Did we miss
you, Michael? I am sorry. We are using a new system and trying to break it in.
;-) Or were you just putting your hand up to be put on the list?
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you Mambo not a problem... When I was Wiccan I made up my own spells and
rituals, is that permissible in New Orleans Voodoo?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, definitely... when you look back in the transcripts, you will see that I
have encouraged our more “seasoned” clients to begin to put things together and
start to strike out on their own with their spell work. I do recommend that you
learn first and stick to the rituals that I have written and/or whatever
products you are using to begin. Nothing terrible is going to happen if you
write or do a not-quite-correct spell, but there is no point in wasting your
time and getting no result from it because it was wrong. ;-) But the
short answer is yes, within certain protocols. :-) Thank you!
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, Sister C., back to the list, sweetheart!
[Sister
Candelaria] OK MaMere, next up we have Sunshine. Sunshine go ahead, honey.
[Sunshine] I
am a little confused with your answer to WFAS— do you mean we need to
specifically set aside time for Papa and not just a spur of the moment when we
ask him to do something/trick? What if we converse with him on a regular basis?
Is it necessary then for the ritual?
[Mambo Sam]
Depends on the trick/result... ;-)
[Sunshine] I
know this was way back— but I was waiting.
[Sister
Candelaria] :-)
[Mambo Sam]
And you are in a particularly good spot with dear Papa! :-D So, you may
have much more leeway than someone else. But just a good rule of thumb is
simply to sort of configure your “ritual” or time spent on the subject to the
complexity of what you are asking for. The “trick” can be elaborate or simple.
If it is elaborate and the result is going to be hopefully monumental, then I
would say at least a little cup of coffee might be in order. ;-) Or a
quick candle.
[Happy] ?
[Sunshine]
Thank you and we do have our daily morning coffee and our coffeeklach.
[Mambo Sam]
:-) And that is a perfect time to discuss a trick that you have come up
with. :-)
[Montana] ?
[Mambo Sam]
I think you have it down just fine, Sunshine. ;-) You know how much he
looooooooooooooooves you! :-) Anything else, honey?
[Sunshine]
Can I make one more comment?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, of course.
[Sunshine]
Lately when I ask Papa to open the gate— I can actually see him open this
enormous metal wrought iron gate.
[Mambo Sam]
:-) Yep... that is a clear manifestation of “the gate.” It is different
for different people, but that is a very common one and a good visualization.
:-) Thank you! Anything else?
[Sunshine]
No, thank you Mambo....
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
Who’s next, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] Alrightie! Our next contestant is Redrose. Redrose, you’re up!
[redrose]
Hi, I am in the waiting period and I am new to spells, I just finished my love
trio.
[Mambo Sam]
Congratulations!
[redrose] And
I would like to continue my communication with Papa Legba
[Michaelseraph]
?
[Mambo Sam]
Oh yes, of course!
[redrose] I
did not have signs like other people, but I need Papa Legba to help me trick my
HD’s mind.
[Mambo Sam]
Not everyone gets signs, sweetie.... Some people go years without ever having
seen a thing. :-)
[redrose] I
would like him to forget out last argument...
[Mambo Sam]
Yes.
[redrose] Or
at least being able to understand my side of the story
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[redrose]
How could I approach Papa to help me?
[Mambo Sam]
First, may I ask, have you had a chance to read the transcripts?
[redrose] I
went to the website but I found old ones. So I apologize if you already
mentioned it... I haven’t being able to find more recent ones.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, I just put them all up yesterday, so you definitely can find them at that
link I mentioned above:
www.spellmaker.com/chatinformation/transcriptindex.htm
Your question
is very case specific, but I do want to answer at least part of it.
[newtospells]
?
[Mambo Sam]
But first, it would be good to read the transcripts so that you get a clear
understanding and I think you will know the answer to your own question.
;-) However, I do want to mention for everyone, that if there is
something like Redrose is mentioning in your case, you probably will still need
to do, for instance, white candle magick or something like that in addition to
just petitioning Papa to help you. The reason is sometimes these things, such
as bad arguments, can leave such a negative imprint that we often need a lot of
help.
Also,
Redrose, you can ask your caseworker to help you with this, too. She may be
able to help you figure out what is the best approach by getting more history
of the situation. And spending some time helping you with the actual usage of
what we are learning. :-)
So I know
that didn’t exactly answer your question, but if you still have it after you
read the transcripts, your caseworker can help you. :-)
[redrose] I
will... It’s just the waiting period is really hard and the trio (especially
the first spell LMMA) took a lot of energy and I am waiting and waiting...
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, everyone’s waiting period is hard.... Just no way around that. But it does
help to come and learn and get new ideas. :-) That is what we are here for.
[redrose] I
tried contact him and I am afraid he could get a restraining order. :-(
[The3rdwish13]
?
[Mambo Sam]
Aw... well... unfortunately, we can’t discuss individual cases here in class,
but definitely please do talk to your caseworker, honey.
[redrose] He
already got a new answering machine. :-(
[Mambo Sam]
Who is your caseworker, sweetie?
[redrose]
Frankie
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, I want you to switch. I love Frankie, she has been around forever, but
her life has taken a wonderful turn that may keep her from casework.
[redrose] I
know I am taking a lot of time... sorry about that
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[redrose]
yes... I agree
[Mambo Sam]
I would like for you to write to me at ReverendCorfield@aol.com
and give me your name (not here, please) and I will switch caseworkers for you,
okay? Just send me an e-mail, honey.
[redrose]
Will do
[Mambo Sam]
In fact, anyone who has Frankie for their caseworker, please do the same. Let’s
just say that Frankie’s spell work worked in a really big way! :-) And so
I may be switching a lot of her clients. It’s a good thing! But her time is really
constrained now.
[newtospells]
very good thing!
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, so please do that Redrose. :-)
[redrose]
Thank you, will do. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
Who is next, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Montana is next. Montana, honey?
[Montana]
Never mind, Mambo Sam answered it above when she said you know how much he
LOOOOOOVVESSS you....... Even though it was about a different HD..... It works
for me too *winks* (How positive was that :-) *giggles*
[Mambo Sam]
:-D
[Montana]
:-D Well, okay, and good to see you, Montana!
[Mambo Sam]
I guess we are moving along, Sister C.
[Montana]
;-)
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Michaelseraph, come on down... :-D You’re next.
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you Mambo, I didn’t have a question I just wanted to apologize I was
disconnected while you were teaching, no disrespect was intended.. I have
internet gremlins tonite :-D
[Mambo Sam]
:-D :-D :-D It happens to all of us... and sometimes to me
where I cannot stay on here and that gets really aggravating. But no problem,
honey. Thank you! :-)
[Michaelseraph]
You’re welcome. I’ll mention it to Papa Legba :-)
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Mambo Sam]
Who’s next, lovely daughter??
[Sister
Candelaria] So did we miss anyone before MaMere goes on? If not, then that’s
it, MaMa.
[Happy] Me
[Sister
Candelaria] OH, Happy. Go ahead, honey!
[Mambo Sam]
Oh little Happy.....
[The3rdwish13]
me
[Happy] You
sure?
[Mambo Sam]
And 3rdwish... Sorry, gals, we will get this new system down. :-)
[Sister
Candelaria] Yes, sorry. I must have blinked.
[The3rdwish13]
no worries!
[Happy] ok I
hope this is not stupid question. My hd has been missing again for two months
so I wanted to do that trick we discussed last week. I did it last night but
was really nervous.
[Mambo Sam]
:-D — oh I forgot to tell you about the no blinking rule. Sister B. get your
toothpicks ready for next week.
[Happy]
Funny since who my Met Tet is.
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[newtospells]
LOL!
[sister
bridget] ;-)
[Happy] But
how many times can you do the same trick and how often? I really want this
trick for those keys :-D
[Mambo Sam]
Were you nervous about asking or about the potential outcome?
[Happy] not
sure
[Mambo Sam]
So just sort of an overall anxiety?
[Happy] I
kept feeling like a stupid little girl.
[Mambo Sam]
Aw....
[Happy] I am
not good with petitions anyway, so I felt I was saying it wrong.
[Mambo Sam]
Now without getting too personal, you KNOW where that is coming from and those
people are wrong about you, honey. Don’t make me come and get you. ;-)
[Happy] huh?
ohhh! duh
[Mambo Sam]
You feel like a stupid little girl because... Oh you got it. :-) :-D
[Happy]
:-D sorry, things have been bad.
[Mambo Sam]
Just push all of that out of your head and know that Papa loves you so dearly
and you can even ask him to hold you in his arms and comfort you while you talk
to him. He is so very loving and caring. I just want to share something real
quick...
[Happy] I
know he keeps my life easy with this nasty chick at work.
[Mambo Sam]
I don’t mean to interrupt but I think it will help you.
One time a
long time ago when I was a child (yes that long ago) I had a dream that Jesus
was holding me in his arms and stroking my hair telling me that everything was
going to be all right (I had a lot of childhood trauma). The night I took my
first initiation, I had that dream again, only it was Papa Legba doing the same
thing. It was the most gentle hands that you could imagine, but strong. :-)
[newtospells]
wow!
[nubis]
comment
[Mambo Sam]
So what I am saying is that he will lift you up, Happy. :-) He will hold
you.
[Happy] He
did today — I was upset about finances and he distracted me.
[Mambo Sam]
Don’t be nervous and afraid, just go to him and hold your arms out and let him
catch you. :-)
So try again
with the trick, and don’t be nervous. You are not a stupid little girl and you
are one of the kindest people I have ever known. So don’t be afraid. :-)
[newtospells]
That just enlightened me Mambo, thanks!
[Happy] Can
I ask something to add to this?
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, of course.
[Happy] I
did the Ogoun ritual and the tying of the head helped me. Can you tie your head
other times or just rituals?
[Mambo Sam]
Anytime! Tying of your head creates a sacred space and also is protective, too.
[Happy] Any
particular color or white is the best route? That is what I need so outside
thoughts stay outside.
[Mambo Sam]
White is always good, but other colors if you are doing something in particular
that dictates another color. But white is always just so good for what you are
mentioning. :-)
[Happy] I am
so happy and thank you for always being there and loving me
[Mambo Sam]
:-) You are welcome. And thanks for loving me!!! ;-)
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, beautiful non-blinking daughter, who is next?
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, so 3rdwish. Sweetie, go ahead.
[The3rdwish13]
This may be a silly question, but I couldn’t find the answer... How does Papa
like his coffee? I ask because I used to give it to him dark with no sugar and
today it bothered me to give it to him like that..... So I put sugar, and after
getting my finger stuck in the little bar where I keep the bottles (for company
of course) I put some rum too. ;-)
[Mambo Sam]
Black with lots of sugar. :-). Strong. And let me just say that a shot of rum
is never a bad thing. ;-)
[The3rdwish13]
Thank YOU... I thought so! My finger still hurts....
[Mambo Sam]
Aw.... sorry, baby.
[alilem] ?
[Mambo Sam]
You can’t go wrong with a shot of rum in the coffee.
[The3rdwish13]
hehehehe. Just kidding
[Mambo Sam]
I will kiss it at the convention. ;-)
[The3rdwish13]
YESSSSSSSS
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[The3rdwish13]
Thank Mambo
[Mambo Sam]
You are welcome.
[Mambo Sam]
Who is next, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] (my eyes are drying out)... Nubis is next. Nubis, COME ON DOWN!
[nubis]
Thank you Mambo, for sharing your dreams about Papa Legba and Jesus. Have been
having dreams lately about an old man, talking to me and comforting me. I
figure it’s Papa Legba!
[Mambo Sam]
Probably so. ;-)
[nubis]
Thank you.
[Mambo Sam]
You are welcome. I have always felt very close to Jesus... maybe it is my
Catholic upbringing, but that never changed.
[nubis] And
you can always go to Mass. Peace be with you. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
:-D :-D :-D — okay, little inside joke there, folks.
[Michaelseraph]
?
[Mambo Sam]
My “excuse” for not going to Mass is that I don’t like the hand shaking and
“peace be with you” deal. :-D But I always feel close to Jesus and Mother
Mary.
[nubis] Just
be like me and use your antibacterial afterward!
[Mambo Sam]
:-D Yeah.... I guess.... :-)
[newtospells]
I don’t know anything about mother Mary... I was raised Mormon. 8-o
[Mambo Sam]
And I do want to mention, because even though we have said it before and it is
on the website, if you have a particular religion, and you do practice it, you
definitely should continue because all true spiritual paths are good ones. We
just “add” to it as we go along with this.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, who is next?
[Sister
Candelaria] Okie dokie...next we have Alilem. Go ahead, honey. Step right up!
[pamunkeyjo]
comment?
[alilem]
Please list the site again to obtain the past transcripts for the chat classes.
[Mambo Sam] www.spellmaker.com/chatinformation/transcriptindex.htm
[alilem]
thanks
[Mambo Sam]
You are welcome... um, I hope I have that right. Simone, is that right? Well, I
think that is right. I did put it in the e-mails I have sent out. Are you
getting the class e-mails, Alilem?
[alilem] My
e-mails are blocked with hotmails
[Mambo Sam]
You can put us on your safe list so that you can get the e-mails.
[alilem] I
will look them up on the site you provided. Again thanks I will put you on the
safe list.
[Mambo Sam]
But I believe that is right, Sister B., do you know if I have that link
correct? Since I gave it out three times... hopefully I have it right!
:-D
[Montana]
comment (yes its right) *winks*
[sister
bridget] yes, it works
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, thank you both! :-) It’s funny, when I work with the pages I don’t
really work with the URL, so I have to look them up sometimes.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, anyway.... Was someone next, Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Michaelseraph... You’re up. :-)
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you Mambo and Sister C .. What is the procedure if one is interested in
becoming Hounsis?
[Mambo Sam]
Hounsis are beginning initiates in the Haitian Vodou religion. In New Orleans
Voodoo, we have Novitiates. For instance, Aleck and Aidan on chat are the
current Novitiates — those working towards becoming initiates in our family New
Orleans Voodoo tradition.
[Michaelseraph]
Must one be chosen as noviatiate or can one request it?
[Mambo Sam]
Before that, Sister Bridget and Sister Candelaria were Novitiates. Yes and yes.
:-)
[Michaelseraph]
thank you Mambo :-)
[Mambo Sam]
You can ask, but generally you will have had to be around awhile and we need to
know you just a tiny bit. ;-)
[Michaelseraph]
right you are :-)
[Mambo Sam]
It isn’t something that we charge for unlike in the Haitian Vodou where you
have to pay for an initiation. Here we ask you to serve the House through some
kind of work — such as being a caseworker, or other type of work. So it means
that one needs to be around a little bit. ;-)
[Michaelseraph]
that’s good to know.
[Mambo Sam]
And this is for everyone: Letting us know that you are interested in seeking
that path is certainly the first step on the path! :-)
[Michaelseraph]
I am definitely interested
[newtospells]
me too!
[Mambo Sam]
And it allows us to have a chance to get to know you and try to help you find
your place in the House. :-)
[Michaelseraph]
This is an incredible place.
[Mambo Sam]
The Sisters are in charge of Novitiates, so all you need do to let us know is
to write to one of them. And we will then start to see what you need to do to
get on your correct path. :-) Being a Novitiate is not a guarantee of
initiation, but it is the first step that all must take who wish to join our
family. :-)
[Michaelseraph]
I am speechless. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
Aw... :-)
[Michaelseraph]
Well I humbly present myself for your consideration, Mambo.
[Mambo Sam]
Absolutely. I will have one of the Sisters contact you. :-)
[Michaelseraph]
bowing to Mambo.
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[newtospells]
?
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you that’s all the questions I have.
[Mambo Sam]
Absolutely any of you can be considered for initiation... I don’t usually ask
unless I know you quite well. But that shouldn’t stop YOU from asking because,
well, then I can get to know you quite well. ;-) Like I said, being a
Novitiate doesn’t guarantee initiation and it is a bit of a long road. We don’t
do “pop culture” initiations that are so popular these days. You are being
brought into a bloodline, so it does take some work, and some learning, and
some responsibilities.
[Michaelseraph]
Yes anything this profound has to have a vision quest as it were.
[Mambo Sam]
Yep, that is exactly right.
[Sister
Candelaria] I’ve been at this for I think eight years. It’s been a long, but
extremely rewarding road.
[Mambo Sam]
And even if I know you well, I might not ask, because sometimes it is YOU who
must seek this path and I don’t like too much to put people in the position of
telling me, “no thank you” because you then feel uncomfortable and like you may
have hurt my feelings, so it is fairly rare that I ask. :-)
[Michaelseraph]
I have wanted to serve in Wicca, the Catholic church, etc and seemed that I was
always passed over.
[Mambo Sam]
I will have someone contact you, honey.
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you dear Lady.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, sorry, I didn’t realize it is getting late!!!! And who else up there,
said, “me, too”, was that Newtospells? You are welcome, Michael.
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Pamunkeyjo is next.
[newtospells]
yeah it was me
[Sister Candelaria]
oops, sorry, MaMa.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, ditto.... Write to one of the Sisters, or I can have them contact you.
(That’s okay, daughter.) :-)
[newtospells]
ok
[Mambo Sam]
:-) Okay, now, Sister C.
[Sister
Candelaria] Alright... NOW, Pamunkeyjo?
[pamunkeyjo]
The Mormon church has never formally acknowledged Mother God but one of the
hymns ‘I am a child of God’ talks about Mother. I don’t think there is Papa
Legba, however.
[alilem] ?
[Mambo Sam]
Right, in many religions there is a “gatekeeper” type figure, but I don’t know
of one in the Mormon religion.... Although I have often thought that John Smith
was perhaps the “gatekeeper” of the religion in a way... sort of the ancestor
to all Mormons in a way....
[pamunkeyjo]
I’d check out some of those angels, they look fierce!
[Mambo Sam]
Oh, we do have to talk about angels again one night... some of them are fierce.
[newtospells]
The Mormon church has no official gate keeper, I know this because I was a
priest in the church
[Mambo Sam]
No, I know they do not have a gatekeeper that is practiced within the religion.
[newtospells]
:-) yes
[Mambo Sam]
However, sometimes we look to different figures in religion to correlate with
what we are doing. And, everyone, please, hands up to speak, please. :-)
[newtospells]
?
[Mambo Sam]
Take turns, my darlings, take turns. ;-)
[pamunkeyjo]
Hmmm. How does on go about finding a gatekeeper?
[Mambo Sam]
Papa Legba is THE gatekeeper. For us, he is the only gatekeeper. However, in
some other religions, there are sometimes gatekeeper figures.
[alilem]
Mambo I am new to this and I have been reading and studying everything and
taking notes on all the information I can gather about the Lwa and your rituals
and your site. Please be patient with me if I ask questions to obtain
information I am unsure of. I do wish to continue with the knowledge I have
obtained thus far. For the past 3-4 months I have truly found peace.
[alilem] I
am so sorry
[Mambo Sam]
Hit that send button, huh? :-D It’s okay, just put it up again when it is
your turn. :-)
[alilem] yes
[Mambo Sam]
So do you understand, Pamunkeyjo?
[pamunkeyjo]
That simplifies things to not have to find a gatekeeper. Yes!
[Mambo Sam]
Papa is always our gatekeeper.
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, so we need to move along, who was next Sister C.?
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Montana? Did you have a question or was your comment about the
link working what you wanted to say?
[Montana] It
was on the link :-) sorry didn’t mean to step on toes :-)
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, then it’s Newtospells and then Alilem. Newtospells? going
once... heehee
[newtospells]
Ok, I was wondering about, since I had seen Papa Legba with my dog that died,
should I put out some dog treats as offerings, even for the other dogs that he
has? Not just my own
[Mambo Sam]
:-) You can definitely put dog treats out as an offering... and I think
that would be extremely nice and a good offering.
[newtospells]
That is very good news! I love dogs. ha ha
[Mambo Sam]
:-) Awesome.
[Michaelseraph]
?
[newtospells]
Ok, thank you again. I am done. God bless Mambo
[Mambo Sam]
:-) You are welcome.
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, Alilem. Now hit that send key, baby! ;-)
[alilem]
Please do not put my name up in red. I am just like everyone else. I am here to
learn and do the right thing. I so enjoy the new found calmness and recovered
from many of the obstacles that Papa and the Lwa have brought forth during my
spell work with your dual work.
[Mambo Sam]
:-) Awesome... though I am not sure why you came up in red.... I didn’t
do it. :-) Maybe it was Papa, he loves red! I am so glad you are here and
learning so much, Ali.... It is great to have you here and see your progress.
[pamunkeyjo]
!!!!
[The3rdwish13]
jsjsjebffjuhshsuskuuuuuuuuuummmjnjnnjg
[Mambo Sam]
She fell asleep on the keyboard.
[Sunshine] ?
[The3rdwish13]
seba seba seba
[Mambo Sam]
Okay just a couple of more questions and then I will tell you a bit about next
week since we didn’t get to it tonight. :-) Who is next, Sister C.
[The3rdwish13]
Oh God I’m sorryyyy...... I got up for a minute and my son left you a message
(yes he’s up) SORRRY
[Mambo Sam]
:-D
[Sister
Candelaria] Alright Michael and then I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to cut us
off there. MaMere has to go soon.
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you Sister C. and Mambo, no problem. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
Michael and Sunshine, too.
[Sister
Candelaria] I’m taking matters into my own hands. :-D
[Mambo Sam]
Then that’s it, unless we missed someone up there!!!!
[Sister
Candelaria] Oh sorry, did I miss Sunshine?
[Mambo Sam]
Yep.
[Sister
Candelaria] Yes, if I missed anyone speak up, but no new questions, was what I
mean. :-)
[Mambo Sam]
So Michael, then Sunshine, and anyone we may have missed, please let us know,
okay?
[pamunkeyjo]
!
[Mambo Sam]
Pamunkeyjo, is that your hand up, honey?
[Michaelseraph]
Ok I don’t want to hold up your sleep Mambo but I noticed in Rada there is a
light aspect and in Petro a dark aspect of the Loa.. Can you explain (just a
short tidbit)?
[pamunkeyjo]
Are Native Americans in red or is it because I am rada that I am red?
[Mambo Sam]
Not tonight, sweetie, and it is already in the transcripts a bit. Petro is not
actually a “dark” aspect of the Lwa... that is a misconception. It is the HOT
aspect of the Lwa. Rada is the cool aspect. ;-)
[Mambo Sam]
But I covered it somewhere! :-D
[Sister
Candelaria] Check the early transcripts, Michael. You will find your answer
there.
[Michaelseraph]
thanks again Ladies
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Sister
Candelaria] :-)
[Mambo Sam]
Sunshine?
[alilem]
everytime you call my name it is singled out in red. Or if I accidentally go
out of turn my name is red. Oh well. Let’s get on with the lesson and be
grateful that we are here and loved by all. Love to you Mambo and your staff.
They have been kind and patient with me. Especially Berkeley. Good Night.
[Sister
Candelaria] Your name will appear in red to YOU, but not to us. It’s just how
the software works.
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[Michaelseraph]
I saw it red too! It’s Papa. :-)
[Sister
Candelaria] It is to draw your attention to it, so you know you were called
on.
[Mambo Sam]
Thank you, Ali.
[alilem]
Thanks, good to know. Love to you...
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, please, we need to stay organized, folks.
[Sunshine]
Since Papa definitely is associated with dogs, which Lwa would be associated
with cats— if Any? My cat always hangs around with me and Papa. Also just
wanted to say that WE love you Mambo....
[Mambo Sam]
:-) Love you, too. Erzulie loves the kitties. ;-)
[Sunshine]
Thanks— I sort of figured that also.
[Mambo Sam]
;-)
[simonegreenewpp]
Which Erzulie?
[Mambo Sam]
Freda.
[simonegreenewpp]
Thank you!
[Mambo Sam]
Dantor eats the kitties, so she loves them, too. :-D I am JUST KIDDING.
[newtospells]
LOL!
[simonegreenewpp]
SNORT!!!
[Sister
Candelaria] :-D I was just thinking that, MaMa!
[Mambo Sam]
She does not eat kitties. ;-) Just a little Voodoo humor. Tee hee.
[newtospells]
That’s hilarious
[Sister
Candelaria] No, she loves the kiddies.
[Sunshine]
Too much.:}
[Mambo Sam]
Yes, the kiddies are tender and juicy. Okay... anyway....
[Sister
Candelaria] mmmmm... kiddies.
[newtospells]
You are making me laugh that’s a good thing
[Mambo Sam]
So just for a moment, next week... :-D We will talk about Papa Legba’s
older aspect and how
[Mambo Sam]
to petition him, etc. :-)
[newtospells]
How he is old?
[Mambo Sam]
I can’t take any more questions tonight. And hands up, folks, pretty please.
But just for the record, he is ancient. He has been around thousands of years.
;-)
[newtospells]
:-)
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, folks. MaMere needs to call it night.
[newtospells]
Thank you so much, amazing experience
[Mambo Sam]
Okay, let’s do our prayers, folks, don’t leave just yet. Unless you need to. I
am going to keep it brief.... When I say so, you can put your own prayer
petitions up. No personal names, please. And for THIS you don’t have to put
your hand up once I say it is okay to go. But me first, I am the Mambo, I get
to go first. :-) Okay, so I will keep it brief...
We ask that
all who are seeking this path and come here to learn, be blessed with
knowledge, power, and happiness.
We ask that
all who are suffering, hurting, and in pain through their losses or mistakes,
be blessed with peace, joy, and forgiveness.
We ask that
those two people here who are still battling illnesses be blessed with health
and complete recovery.
We ask that
each true seeker of the light be bathed in it.
We ask that
all financial problems and job worries be taken care of and each person who is
in financial need be blessed with all that they need.
I am going
to ask you all to close your eyes for about 20 seconds and then open them
again, starting now.
I send you
all my blessings and consecrate each of you in the name of God, the ancestors,
and the Lwa, that you find peace, love, and happiness. Take a deep breath. Hold
your hands out in front of you. See the white light coming from your
fingertips.
You are
blessed and powerful. :-)
[newtospells]
Thank you so much Mambo
[Mambo Sam]
I wish you all good night, and you may proceed with your own prayer requests
for yourself and others. Sister C. will find out when the lovely Simone has the
transcript and close the room down. You may all begin now.
[Michaelseraph]
Papa Legba pray for us.. Immaculate Heart of Mary Pray for us, Sacred Heart of
Jesus, be our Salvation. Amen
[newtospells]
Amen
[waitingforastar]
Thank you Mambo Sam, I love you xoxox Blessings on you always.
[PATRICKinCALI]
Blessings to Mambo, Parran and the Sisters, for all they do for all of us,
wether we know it or not!
[Montana]
Sending blessings to all of you on achieving your most heart’s desire
[mamakate] I
thank you Mambo from the very depths of my soul! I’m in tears because your
prayers touched me so. When I held out my hands, I didn’t see the light but I
did feel someone take my hands in theirs — which made me cry. Thank you so
much!
[simonegreenewpp]
Thank you Ogoun for the temp work, and I look forward to having something
permanent soon.
[waitingforastar]
Amen
[Michaelseraph]
Thank you dear Lady Sam and Sisters and Parran Matt Blessings upon you all
always.
[newtospells]
God Bless you All!
[The3rdwish13]
Thank You Mambo! I love you...
[Mambo Sam]
I love you all, too!! Thank you!
[litenluv]
Thank you for that wonderful prayer Mambo! There’s heat emanating from my
fingers!
[The3rdwish13]
...And I pray that things continue to get better so I can meet you in person
soon!
[Sister
Candelaria] Blessings to all here. I ask that much love and hope and faith be
bestowed upon you. I also ask for blessings for my family, MaMere, MaPere and
Sister Bridget. May we be strong and loving to help all of you along your
way.
[Montana]
Prayers to all of you to keep patient during all of our hard times, especially
that darn processing period, to know that we are never alone, may all of us
keep strong and keep our faith.
[waitingforastar]
Amen
[pamunkeyjo]
Thank you Mambo for the patience to teach and help us learn!
[Sunshine]
Blessings to the Spellmaker family and all participants on chat tonight.
[newtospells]
They are the best! Most definitely helped me in my trials.
[waitingforastar]
And upon you too Sunshine
[Happy] Love
and peace and happiness to everyone especially Mambo, Sister B. & Sister
C.
[The3rdwish13]
Thank you too Sister C... You are sweet and you did a great job today ;-)
[Sister
Candelaria] OH, you are all welcome. I blinked, BUT I will bring my toothpicks
next time.
[Montana]
Blessings to my Spellmaker family even the ones behind the scenes *blinks*
[Sister
Candelaria] Thank you all for being here. :-)
[newtospells]
LOL, toothpicks
[Happy] I do
not know Frankie but I want to say blessings to her and glad whatever it is!
[newtospells]
Thank you for allowing us to be here.
[waitingforastar]
May Sister C’s eyes stay moist even with the toothpicks :-)
[The3rdwish13]
hehe
[vodoukat02]
good nite everyone
[Sister
Candelaria] Thank you WFAS! I needed that. :-D
[simonegreenewpp]
Yes, much gratitude for Frankie’s success!
[waitingforastar]
:-D
[Sunshine]
Goodnight all— blessings to all— see you next week.
[Michaelseraph]
Good Night to all.. Bountiful Blessings, Peace and Providence, By your leave
Dear Mambo.
[PATRICKinCALI]
Stay moist Sr. C! :-)
[newtospells]
Good night all. This was an amazing experience and we are all going to receive
what we need in the end. Trust the Lwa
[Sister
Candelaria] PATRICK!!!
[Happy] I
pray that all my financial woes will be a thing of the past
[Sister
Candelaria] Always, Baby! ;-)
[litenluv]
Amen! Blessings to all here, those that left early and those that couldn’t make
it tonight. I love attending the chats. They help me so much. Mambo, you are
wonderful for doing this for us and Sisters B and C are wonderful for helping.
[Montana]
Blinkssssssss
[waitingforastar]
But seriously Sister Candelaria, blessings on you always for all you do for me
and all of us xoxoxo
[Mambo Sam]
Good night, my precious ones. Blessings to you all.
[The3rdwish13]
Oh Patrick....
[waitingforastar]
Good night Beloved Mambo Sam, xoxoxo
[PATRICKinCALI]
I’m sorry you guys!
[Montana] I
love you Mambo and he loves me *winks*
[pamunkeyjo]
Nite!
[simonegreenewpp]
Thank you Mambo! I love you!
[Happy] I
pray that the love and family I seek will be here
[Mambo Sam]
:-)
[waitingforastar]
Amen Happy
[Mambo Sam]
Love you, too, Simone. ;-)
[Happy] Good
night lovely people and have a wonderful weekend
[Mambo Sam]
Good night. :-D
User Mambo
Sam has logged out.
[Happy] Oh
Patrick and Sister C are silly (I LOVE IT)
[PATRICKinCALI]
Sorry WFAS, I didn’t mean to take away from your good will.
[The3rdwish13]
Hahahahaha
[PATRICKinCALI]
:-) really!
[waitingforastar]
It’s cool:)
[litenluv] I
ask that I concentrate on my schoolwork and get good grades and that my
financial issues be resolved
[Happy] Good
one, Litenluv, trying to get into grad school here.
[litenluv]
Oh! I’m praying for you Happy!
[Happy]
Thank you
[litenluv]
:-)
[Happy] To
Papa — thank you for always being there for me.
[simonegreenewpp]
Viddy clips and eyedrops, like in A Clockwork Orange. :-D
[Sister
Candelaria] :-)
[litenluv]
Here, here!
[Sister
Candelaria] OK, my dearest ones, it’s almost midnight for some folks.
[Happy] Luvs
everyone night night
[Sister
Candelaria] I think it’s time to wrap it up.
[PATRICKinCALI]
Good night all, may your cup runneth over :-)
[Sister
Candelaria] Behave Patrick my love!
[waitingforastar]
Good night Sister Candelaria, love you xoxo
[Sister
Candelaria] Night WFAS!
[waitingforastar]
Goodnight All, love, hugs and blessings
[simonegreenewpp]
Goodnight, sleep tight!
[Sister
Candelaria] don’t let the... well, you all get it. heehee
[simonegreenewpp]
zombies bite?
[Sister
Candelaria] YES!! Perfect. ;-)
[simonegreenewpp]
Your braaaaiiiinnnnsssss!!!!!!
[Sister
Candelaria] Or do... Whatever floats your boat.
[simonegreenewpp]
Agwe?
[Sister
Candelaria] Yep. :-D He’s always with me! HA! OK, pointy stick is coming
out.
[simonegreenewpp]
I think everyone else is asleep. We can tiptoe out now.
[Sister
Candelaria] yeah, I think so too. Flicker the lights, Simone.
[simonegreenewpp]
Not sure I can!
[Sister
Candelaria] :-D OK, well I can shut the room down. Just let me know.
[simonegreenewpp]
Put out the cat, Dantor’s hungry.
[Sister
Candelaria] Yep. heehee
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